Using the surrounding airflow to deduce the physics around UAP/UFO

[TheTuringTester]

TL;DR Summary: Using the surrounding airflow to deduce the physics around UAP/UFO

Now that NASA is in the mix for investigating UAP/UFOs - I started wondering at what their approach might be. I'm thinking they might be able to work from the outside in, toward the object/sensor(y) artifact. NASA has a lot of experience modeling atmospheric flow around hypersonic objects - I wonder how far out they measure the wake / vortices / vapor clouds from the spacecraft / meteor.

I know we can use magnets to control plasma - is there any conceivable way with a really strong magnet to move ordinary air out of the way and then put it back after the aircraft has passed without causing a sonic boom or vortices? I'm wondering if there is a viable strategy for NASA to investigate the surrounding atmosphere in addition to trying to figure out the technology of the vehicle itself. Thanks for your input!

 

[anorlunda]

TL;DR Summary: Using the surrounding airflow to deduce the physics around UAP/UFO

Now that NASA is in the mix for investigating UAP/UFOs - I started wondering at what their approach might be.

The obvious approach is to wait for one of them to land on the lawn in D.C., the alien emerges and asks,"May I have the WiFi password?"

Seriously, I don't think any physical theory would persuade very many people that it is really alien visitors. And if the UFOs are not aliens, but some earthling with superior technology, then the strategy is to find that person and ask him or her how they do it.

 

[Vanadium 50]

So, the idea is, as soon as a UFO is spotted, to move an array of air pressure sensors into the area? Why would this work better than moving cameras into position?

For that matter, the number of cameras has gone up be something like 4 orders of magnitude since the 1950's. Why have we not gotten better photographic evidence since then? Like 4 orders of magnitude better.

 

[Jarvis323]

TL;DR Summary: Using the surrounding airflow to deduce the physics around UAP/UFO

Now that NASA is in the mix for investigating UAP/UFOs - I started wondering at what their approach might be. I'm thinking they might be able to work from the outside in, toward the object/sensor(y) artifact. NASA has a lot of experience modeling atmospheric flow around hypersonic objects - I wonder how far out they measure the wake / vortices / vapor clouds from the spacecraft / meteor.

I know we can use magnets to control plasma - is there any conceivable way with a really strong magnet to move ordinary air out of the way and then put it back after the aircraft has passed without causing a sonic boom or vortices? I'm wondering if there is a viable strategy for NASA to investigate the surrounding atmosphere in addition to trying to figure out the technology of the vehicle itself. Thanks for your input!

Suppose there were a way to displace the air in a controlled way such that no heat, sonic booms (or even sound), or noticeable disturbances are created, you still need to explain the apparent physically implausible extreme acceleration.

 

[berkeman]

I know we can use magnets to control plasma - is there any conceivable way with a really strong magnet to move ordinary air out of the way and then put it back after the aircraft has passed without causing a sonic boom or vortices?

No. Magnets do not interact with "ordinary air".

IMO, the best way to investigate these UAPs is with missiles. Fox-1, Fox-2, Fox-3...

https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/785948572446219582/

 

[Jarvis323]

Why would this work better than moving cameras into position?

Because cameras don’t measure air pressure?

 

[Baluncore]

I'm wondering if there is a viable strategy for NASA to investigate the surrounding atmosphere in addition to trying to figure out the technology of the vehicle itself.

If there is insufficient evidence, then the UAP/UFO does not represent a threat, and needs no further investigation.

The main source of UAP/UFOs is from people who focus intentionally on "insufficient data", noise that would normally have been eliminated in the first review of the data used to classify observed events.

It seems counterintuitive, but with an increase in camera numbers, the number of UAP/UFO detections or sightings should fall.

 

[StevieTNZ]

I did see this article the other day -- https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/uk/30...unter-now-before-its-too-late-warn-scientists