UV Star Redshift 8: Doppler Effect Impact on IR Spectrum?

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The discussion revolves around the impact of redshift, specifically a redshift of 8, on the spectrum of an O-Type star primarily emitting in the UV range. Participants explore the implications of the Doppler effect on the observed light as it travels to Earth, considering how distance and relative velocity influence the light's frequency and energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a star with a redshift of 8 would shift its UV output into the IR spectrum when observed from Earth, referencing the Doppler effect.
  • Another participant notes that the level of redshift is dependent on the relative velocity between the star and Earth, suggesting that a significant shift is theoretically possible but expressing uncertainty about the maximum observed redshift.
  • It is mentioned that while redshift is related to the Doppler effect, the light itself does not change as it approaches Earth; rather, the frequency and wavelength change while the energy of the photon remains constant.
  • One participant argues that if a star is moving away from Earth at a significant fraction of the speed of light, the observed light would indeed be at a lower frequency, implying lower energy, and that longer pulses could be detected.
  • Another participant counters that a lower frequency does not necessarily equate to lower energy, referencing the relationship between energy, frequency, and wavelength.
  • There is an acknowledgment of the need for further research to clarify the points raised, particularly regarding the intensity of light in relation to relative velocity.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between frequency, energy, and the effects of redshift. There is no consensus on the implications of these factors, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of redshift and its dependence on relative motion, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of energy and frequency in the context of redshift.

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Hello friends!

Would a star (O-Type) with max output peaking in the UV range, which was subject to (at distance) redshift 8 end up in the IR spectrum when its light approached earth? Would this be taking into consideration the doppler effect?

BTW, yes this is somewhat an extension of my previous question but I am also working on it! another few hours of searching he's led to its evolution to this question. I am just trying to figure out the effect of distance (space) on a light source given the applicable laws (obviously dopplers law here) I think a stars red shift would work well!

Thanks!
 
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Well, the level of redshift depends on the relative velocity between the star and Earth.
If the star was moving fast enough away from Earth it should be theorethically possible to have a great shift in the observed spectrum of the star, though I am unsure of the greatest shift measured so far. Also, when considering redshift one must also take into account the time period over which it is measured.

Redshift is all about the doppler effect yes. But the light from the star does not change "as its light approaches earth". Remember that it is the frequency and the wavelength that changes, but energy of the photon remains the same.
 
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Redshift is all about the doppler effect yes. But the light from the star does not change "as its light approaches earth". Remember that it is the frequency and the wavelength that changes, but energy of the photon remains the same.

I don't think so. If there is a star moving away from Earth very fast (let say half c) , and the star illuminates a very narrow band of light at certain frequency and at pulses. Then from Earth we can detect the light from the star at lower frequency, meaning lower energy. The trick here is that we can receive longer pulses.
 
That is true yes. But a lower frequency does not mean lower energy as the wavelength is increased. E=fw
You could be right, still. I'll do some research on this and get back to you;)

However, I feel I expressed myself a bit cryptically and do appologize for this. The intention was that it is the intensity of the light that decreases as the relative velocity increases.
 

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