V(center) of charged metal sphere inside a grounded shell

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The discussion revolves around determining the electric potential at the center of a charged metal sphere that is enclosed by a grounded shell. The problem involves concepts from electrostatics, particularly related to conductors and electric fields.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of the Uniqueness Theorem and image charges to find the potential. Some suggest using Gauss's Law to derive the electric field and potential differences instead. There is a discussion about the reference point for potential due to grounding.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering alternative approaches and clarifying concepts related to grounding and reference points. There is recognition of different methods to arrive at the potential, but no consensus has been reached on a single approach.

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Some participants note the importance of the grounding condition, which changes the reference point for potential calculations. There is also mention of specific options provided in the problem, which may influence the reasoning process.

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Potential at the center of conducting charged sphere surrounded by a grounded shell

If I take another sphere of charge –q of radius a with uniform charge density, then the potential on the spherical region from the radius a to b is same to that of the original question.

According to Uniqueness theorem, the V at the center of the sphere due to the above system should be equal to that of the original question.

Since the conducting sphere is an equipotential, the potential due to this sphere at center is same to that of the surface = ## \frac { q}{4 \pi \epsilon _0 R} ## .The potential due to the image sphere of charge –q at the center is ## \frac { -q}{4 \pi \epsilon _0 a} ## .

So, the total potential at the center is ## \frac { q}{4 \pi \epsilon _0 R} ## - ## \frac { q}{4 \pi \epsilon _0 a} ## , option (d).
 

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Looks OK, but you don't need to invoke the Uniqueness Theorem and image charges. Note that grounding the sphere effectively brings the reference point from infinity to ##r=a##. Then just use Gauss's Law to find the E-field in the region ##R < r < a## and then use ##V(R)-V(a)=-\int_a^R{E~dr}##.
 
kuruman said:
Note that grounding the sphere effectively brings the reference point from infinity to r=a.
I didn't note this.
I was in the habit of taking reference point at infinity, so I thought of solving it that way even when an easier approach was near.

Thanks for pointing it out.
 
Pushoam said:
didn't note this.
If you are prepared to trust the list of options then, noting that, you can get to the answer very quickly. It means that the radius b cannot be relevant, so we rule out options a and c.
As radius a tends to R, the induced charge cancels the charge on the inner sphere. This leaves d as the only option.
 
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