Vacuum amplitudes in \phi^4 theory

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The discussion revolves around the expansion of the exponential of an operator in the context of quantum field theory, specifically within the framework of \(\phi^4\) theory. Participants explore the relationship between this expansion and the Dyson series in nonrelativistic quantum mechanics, while also addressing the implications of integrating over time and space in these expressions.

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  • Some participants note that defining the exponential of an operator as a power series leads to questions about the first three terms of \(\exp \left( \int dt H\left(t\right) \right)\).
  • There is a comparison made to the evolution operator \(U(t,t')\) in nonrelativistic quantum mechanics, with some arguing that while similar, the integrals in this context are not solely over time.
  • One participant suggests that the terms in the expansion correspond to specific lines in a referenced equation, questioning the meaning of certain notations and whether they refer to measures or integrands.
  • Another participant clarifies the structure of the nth-order term in the expansion, emphasizing the need to consider multiple integrals over the Hamiltonian at different times.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of \(\int dt H\left(t\right)\) in terms of a Hamiltonian density, with one participant asserting it corresponds to the integral of the Hamiltonian density over spacetime.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the notation and structure of the equations discussed, indicating that there is no consensus on certain aspects of the expansion and its implications. Some participants agree on the relationship between the Hamiltonian and the Hamiltonian density, while others remain uncertain about specific details.

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Participants reference specific equations and notations from a PDF document, which may contain assumptions or definitions that are not fully explored in the discussion. The discussion also highlights the complexity of integrating over multiple variables in the context of quantum field theory.

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I am not sure how to get the second line from the first.
It looks like he is expanding the exponential as a Taylor series, but what is happening to all those integrals?
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Replusz said:
It looks like he is expanding

To whom does "he" refer? If you ask questions about a specific reference, then you should always explicitly state the reference, because then we might be able to point out something else relevant from the same reference.

Defining the exponential of an operator as a power series, and supposing that the operator ##\int dt H\left(t\right)## exists, what are the first three terms of

$$\exp \left( \int dt H\left(t\right) \right) ?$$
 
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That looks like the same as when an evolution operator ##U(t,t')## in nonrelativistic QM is written as a Dyson series, but it's not completely the same because the integrals are not only over the time coordinate.
 
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The material we should know is in this PDF:
http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/qft/qft.pdf

Defining the exponential of an operator as a power series, and supposing that the operator ##\int dt H\left(t\right)## exists, what are the first three terms of

$$\exp \left( \int dt H\left(t\right) \right) ?$$
I assume its just this:
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This corresponds to the first three terms of the 2nd line in eq. 7.1
I think I see where I went wrong.
Where it says in the 2nd line in 7.1 "..." those only mean measures right? No integrands. So it is only the very last part that is being integrated n times.
That would make sense, am I correct?
 
hilbert2 said:
That looks like the same as when an evolution operator ##U(t,t')## in nonrelativistic QM is written as a Dyson series, but it's not completely the same because the integrals are not only over the time coordinate.
I was actually thinking the same thing, I assume the d3^x term is just there to normalize something - I might be completely wrong though.

Thanks to George Jones and hilbert2 for your help!
 
Replusz said:
I assume its just this:
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This corresponds to the first three terms of the 2nd line in eq. 7.1
I think I see where I went wrong.
Where it says in the 2nd line in 7.1 "..." those only mean measures right? No integrands. So it is only the very last part that is being integrated n times.

I am not quite sure what you mean, as there two instances of "..." in (7.1), one for the integration variables, and one for the integrand. Write the second-order term above as

$$\int dt_1 H\left(t_1\right) \int dt_2 H\left(t_2\right) =\int dt_1 \int dt_2 H\left(t_1\right) H\left(t_2\right) ,$$

so the nth-order term is

$$ \int dt_1 \int dt_2 ... \int dt_n H\left(t_1\right) H\left(t_2\right)... H\left(t_n\right). $$
Replusz said:
I was actually thinking the same thing, I assume the d3^x
If ##H\left(t\right)## is a Hamiltonian, what is ##\int dt H\left(t\right)## in terms of a Hamiltonian density?
 
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George Jones said:
I am not quite sure what you mean, as there two instances of "..." in (7.1), one for the integration variables, and one for the integrand. Write the second-order term above as

$$\int dt_1 H\left(t_1\right) \int dt_2 H\left(t_2\right) =\int dt_1 \int dt_2 H\left(t_1\right) H\left(t_2\right) ,$$

so the nth-order term is

$$ \int dt_1 \int dt_2 ... \int dt_n H\left(t_1\right) H\left(t_2\right)... H\left(t_n\right). $$

Yes, I understand now. Thank you!

If ##H\left(t\right)## is a Hamiltonian, what is ##\int dt H\left(t\right)## in terms of a Hamiltonian density?

It is the integral with d^4x of the Hamiltonian density. Just what we have!
Thanks!
 

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