Variable Dielectric Spherical Capacitor: Calculating Capacitance

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The discussion revolves around calculating the capacitance of a spherical capacitor with varying dielectric properties, specifically where the permittivity is defined as ε = c + dcos²θ, with A and B representing the inner and outer radii, respectively. Participants are exploring the implications of this variable dielectric on the electric field and potential difference.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find the capacitance by considering the potential difference and averaging the potential while questioning the validity of different approaches. Some participants suggest using Gauss's law to derive the electric field and potential difference, emphasizing the radial dependence of the electric field.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing various methods to approach the problem, with some providing guidance on using Gauss's law and the displacement field. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the dielectric's angular dependence, but no consensus has been reached on a single method or solution.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted complexity due to the variable dielectric, and participants are considering the implications of this on the electric field and potential calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their initial approach, indicating a need for clarification on the setup and calculations involved.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the capacitance of a spherical capacitor of inner radius A and outer radius B which is filled with a di-electric varying as e=c+dcos^2θ . c and d are constants and θ is the angle made with the z axis.(also known as the polar angle)

Homework Equations


$C=εA/d$

The Attempt at a Solution


At first,i thought maybe i should take the potential by keeping θ constant,and then taking the average of the potential to get avg V and then find the potential.Again,I realized that we could also consider the spheres to be thin parallel plates.But,both the process give different answer.Is either of them right?and if one is,can someone explain the process.
 
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Use the fact that the polar angle dependence of the permittivity arises only in the displacement field not the electric field, hence the electric field has only radial dependence.
To find the capacity you need to find the potential difference between the two plates. For this use the integral form of Gauss's law (take care of the displacement field) to find the radial dependence of the electric field. From here finding the potential difference should be easy.
 
Thaakisfox said:
Use the fact that the polar angle dependence of the permittivity arises only in the displacement field not the electric field, hence the electric field has only radial dependence.
To find the capacity you need to find the potential difference between the two plates. For this use the integral form of Gauss's law (take care of the displacement field) to find the radial dependence of the electric field. From here finding the potential difference should be easy.

Could you please show how to start the calculations?Could you provide setup of any similar problem?Thanks for the help.
 
Suppose the charge on the inner sphere is Q. Now surround the sphere by an imaginary sphere S of radius r. By Gauss's law:

\oint_{S}\textbf{D}\;d\textbf{f}=Q

Where df is the element vector of the spherical surface. Consider a linear medium in this case the displacement field proportional to the first power of the electric field:

\textbf{D}(r,\theta)=\varepsilon(\theta)\textbf{E}(r)

(convince yourself the electric field only depends on r).

Now then we have:

E(r)r^2\oint_{S}\varepsilon(\theta)d\Omega=Q

Now just calculate the integral of the permitivity over the solid angle, and from here express the electric field.

When you have the electric field, integrate it between A and B to get the potential difference and from there the capacitance is self evident.
 
Thaakisfox said:
Suppose the charge on the inner sphere is Q. Now surround the sphere by an imaginary sphere S of radius r. By Gauss's law:

\oint_{S}\textbf{D}\;d\textbf{f}=Q

Where df is the element vector of the spherical surface. Consider a linear medium in this case the displacement field proportional to the first power of the electric field:

\textbf{D}(r,\theta)=\varepsilon(\theta)\textbf{E}(r)

(convince yourself the electric field only depends on r).

Now then we have:

E(r)r^2\oint_{S}\varepsilon(\theta)d\Omega=Q





Now just calculate the integral of the permitivity over the solid angle, and from here express the electric field.

When you have the electric field, integrate it between A and B to get the potential difference and from there the capacitance is self evident.

Finally I got it! Thnx a lot.
 

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