Variation of gravity along latitude

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The discussion revolves around the variation of gravitational strength along different latitudes on Earth, focusing on the contributing factors such as the Earth's shape and rotation. Participants explore the components of gravitational force and their relationships, as well as the implications of these variations in specific scenarios.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants identify the shape of the Earth and its rotation as factors contributing to the variation of gravity along latitude.
  • There is a discussion about the components of gravitational force, with some participants questioning why these components are not perpendicular to each other.
  • One participant suggests that the components arise from distinct sources, while another emphasizes that one component is a mathematical expression rather than a source.
  • Participants discuss the nature of gravitational force and centrifugal force, noting that gravitational force points towards the center of the Earth while centrifugal force acts perpendicular to the axis of rotation.
  • A side question is raised about the influence of the moon's position on gravitational effects experienced by individuals, particularly in relation to high jump performance.
  • Confusion is expressed regarding the characterization of gravitational field strength "g" as a single source and its behavior at latitudes other than the poles and equator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the components of gravitational force and their sources. There is no consensus on the characterization of these components or the implications of the moon's position on gravitational effects.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need for clarification on the definitions and mathematical expressions involved in the discussion, particularly regarding the components of gravitational force and their interactions at various latitudes.

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Factor contributes to variation of gravity along latitude is:
1. shape of the earth
2. rotation of the earth

gravitational field strength is resolved into two components, (R cos\theta)\omega square, and g'
at the poles,\theta =90 degree, therefore, g' = g which is 9.81
at the equator \theta=0, therefore, g' = g- R omega square

what I couldn't understand is that why the components of g are not perpendicular to each other.
can we resolve a force into components which are not perpendicular to each other ?
 
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The components of g are not perpendicular because they come from two distinct sources.

Think of it this way: Consider a mass at rest on an inclined frictionless plane. A cable connects the mass to the top of a fixed pole which rises above the top of the plane. The forces on the mass include gravity (down), the normal force (normal to the plane), and tension (toward the top of the pole). None of these forces are perpendicular to one another.
 
then what are the two distinct sources?
one of them is R cos(\theta)\omegasquare

the other source?
 
R\omega^2\cos\theta is not a source. It is a mathematical expression. What is the source of that term?

The other source is of course gravity itself. Where does it point?
 
g points towards the centre of the earth
 
that term is centripetal force
 
wilsonlye said:
what I couldn't understand is that why the components of g are not perpendicular to each other.
?

These are the directions of the two forces...
The force of gravity acts from the center of mass of earth and so intersects normal to the Earth surface (approximately) at any latitude, BUT...
Centrifugal force (from Earth rotation) acts perpendicular to the axis of rotation, and so it intersects at various angles at the (curved) surface depending upon latitude.

...
 
In another word, mg and centripetal force are two different forces act on a particle and mg' is the resultant force experienced by the particle?
 
wilsonlye said:
In another word, mg and centripetal force are two different forces act on a particle and mg' is the resultant force experienced by the particle?

Yes, basically; one arises from the gravitational mass (of earth) and the other from the rotating reference frame.



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wilsonlye said:
Factor contributes to variation of gravity along latitude is:
1. shape of the earth
2. rotation of the earth

gravitational field strength is resolved into two components, (R cos\theta)\omega square, and g'
at the poles,\theta =90 degree, therefore, g' = g which is 9.81
at the equator \theta=0, therefore, g' = g- R omega square

what I couldn't understand is that why the components of g are not perpendicular to each other.
can we resolve a force into components which are not perpendicular to each other ?

A side question...I've always wondered about the high jump in track being affected by the position of the moon.

Shouldn't the total gravitational affect on an individual be slightly less when the moon is directly overhead?
 
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"The components of g are not perpendicular because they come from two distinct sources."

I'm confused by the above statement. "g" is gravitational field strength and comes from wherever gravity comes from! Single source if you will.

Also, I understand that at the equator Fn= Fg- mw^2 R, where I am taking g as a positive value, but what about at at a latitude of \theta not equal to zero or 90 degrees?
 

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