Vector Components for Destination Distance

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the distance b that Amy must travel towards her destination, which is located 330m at an angle of 31 degrees north of east. She travels a distance b at an angle of 20 degrees north of east before covering an additional 100m to reach her destination. The context is rooted in vector components and requires exploration of possible values for b without the use of trigonometric functions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the constraints of not using trigonometric functions to solve the problem, with some expressing frustration over the requirement to use vector components instead. There are attempts to calculate vector components based on the given angles, but uncertainty remains about how to proceed without trigonometry. Questions arise about the possibility of using graphical methods to find solutions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and expressing confusion about the constraints imposed by the problem. Some have suggested that graphical methods might be a viable alternative, while others are still grappling with how to approach the problem using only vector components.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the restriction against using trigonometric functions as mandated by the teacher, which adds complexity to the problem-solving process. There is also mention of the need for clarity in the problem setup and potential interpretations of the angles involved.

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Homework Statement


Amy wants to reach a destination that is 330m [E31 degrees N] from where she is. She travels a distance b towards [E20 degrees N] and then 100m to her destination. What is the distance b? (list all possible answers)

(Sorry I don't know how to get symbols)

Let [N] and [E] be positive.
delta d = 330m [E31 degrees N]
delta db = x [E20 degrees N]
delta dc = 100m [?]

Homework Equations



dx = d cos theta
dy = d sin theta

theta = tan^-1 (y / x)

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, first, I'm not allowed to use trig to solve (so no sine law for me). When I did it just to get the answer, I came up with x = 246 or x = 401.5 (approximate).

I've been trying this all of yesterday and I've got nothing. At this point I'm just randomly plugging things in and hoping something will come out.

I found the vector components of d, so
dx = +330cos31
dx = +282.87

dy = +330sin31
dy = +169.96

The rest of what I did is just kind of nonsense, now that I look at it. Anyone have any idea how to go about this? Any help would be appreciated! (And I know it probably isn't very clear so if any clarification is needed, just ask!)
 
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Have a picture of what is going on and the solution might follow?
 

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Thank you for the picture, but every time I look at it (or my own diagrams), I still can only think of using trig to solve it. I just can't see how you can use components for this. :/
 
The problem asks for possible values of b. Does it tell you how you are to solve the problem? If you can solve the problem with trig then go for it?
 
I have to use vector components. My teacher said no trig/sine law/anything. D:
 
Part of your information is angles, without trig I don't see how you get components? Can you solve this problem graphically with protractor and ruler? Then you could measure the components.

I'm stumped, sorry I'm of no help right now.

Anyone else?
 

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