Vector field question + reasoning

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by the force field F = 3xyi - 2j when moving between specified points. It is highlighted that there is no change in the y-coordinate along the path from A to D, leading to the conclusion that dy=0. Consequently, since the x-component of the force depends on y, it becomes zero along this segment, resulting in no work done. The confusion arises from the assumption that some force is exerted during the movement, but the mathematical evaluation shows that the work integral evaluates to zero. Overall, the integration along the path confirms that the work done is indeed zero due to the nature of the force field and the path taken.
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Im doing some revision of vector calculus and came across the following problem

Q: Calculate the work done by the force field F = 3xyi - 2j in moving from A: (1,0,0) to D: (2,0,0) and then from D: (2,0,0) to B: (2,sqrt(3),0)

I got stuck and decided to look at the answers. In the answers (part b of q5 in the document attached), the author assumed that dy=0, and based on this, he assumed that the integral of the vector field was 0. (n.b. r = r(t) = x(t)i + y(t)j + z(t)k )

How he came to this conclusion is beyond me, so could anyone shed some light on what I am misunderstanding?

thanks
 

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JamesGoh said:
Im doing some revision of vector calculus and came across the following problem

Q: Calculate the work done by the force field F = 3xyi - 2j in moving from A: (1,0,0) to D: (2,0,0) and then from D: (2,0,0) to B: (2,sqrt(3),0)

I got stuck and decided to look at the answers. In the answers (part b of q5 in the document attached), the author assumed that dy=0, and based on this, he assumed that the integral of the vector field was 0. (n.b. r = r(t) = x(t)i + y(t)j + z(t)k )

How he came to this conclusion is beyond me, so could anyone shed some light on what I am misunderstanding?

thanks

The force F moves from point A to point D. Notice anything about the coordinates of these two points?
 
JamesGoh said:
Q: Calculate the work done by the force field F = 3xyi - 2j in moving from A: (1,0,0) to D: (2,0,0) and then from D: (2,0,0) to B: (2,sqrt(3),0)

(part b of q5 in the document attached), the author assumed that dy=0,

Along AD there is no change in y coordinate. Is the integration along AD what you are asking about ?
 
Stephen, yes integration along AD is what I am asking about. SteamKing, I did notice that there was no change in y coordinate. However, why would the curve integral be 0 (as the answers say)? It makes no sense as some force is used to move the particle from A to D so it cannot be 0?
 
I notice that, in your pdf attachment, the integral is specifically along the straight line from A to D and then from D to B but you do not say that in your post here. A= (1, 0, 0) and D= (2, 0, 0) so parametric equations for that line are x= t, y= 0, z= 0 with t going from 1 to 2. Alternatively, x= t+ 1, y= 0, z= 0, with t going from 0 to 1. The crucial point is that y and z are equal to 0 for any point on the line from (0, 0, 0) to (1, 0, 0) so we always have y and z constant on that line. The derivative of any constant is, of course, 0. dx= dt, dy= 0, dz= 0.
(I am puzzled why you only asked about "dy" and not about "dz"!)
 
JamesGoh said:
It makes no sense as some force is used to move the particle from A to D so it cannot be 0?

Assuming "i" is the vector in the x-direction, the field exerts no force in the x-direction along a line where y = 0. In practical terms, any force however small and acting for however short a distance is sufficient to give a mass some velocity in the x-direction and cause it to eventually move from A to D. Hence "the work necessary" has lower limit zero, so we say "the work necessary" is zero.
 
JamesGoh said:
Stephen, yes integration along AD is what I am asking about. SteamKing, I did notice that there was no change in y coordinate. However, why would the curve integral be 0 (as the answers say)? It makes no sense as some force is used to move the particle from A to D so it cannot be 0?
The x-component of F = 3xy also depends on y. Since y = 0 all along AD, then the x-component of F = 0 and the work F⋅ds also is zero.
The y-component of F is a constant and = -2, but ds = dy = 0, so the F⋅ds = 0 here as well.
 

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