Vector Question: 3 dimensions inside a rectangular soild?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving three forces acting on a rectangular solid, specifically focusing on calculating the equilibrant and the angles it makes with the original forces. The subject area includes vector analysis and force equilibrium in three dimensions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss methods for calculating the equilibrant and express uncertainty about determining angles with respect to the original vectors. Some suggest using the dot product, while others propose trigonometric relationships involving right triangles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different mathematical approaches and questioning the applicability of concepts like the dot product and trigonometry. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas without a clear consensus on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the textbook does not cover certain mathematical tools, such as the dot product, which may limit their approach to solving the problem. There is also mention of the need to visualize the forces and their relationships in a three-dimensional context.

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Vector Question: 3 dimensions inside a rectangular soild??

Homework Statement



Three forces of 5 N, 8 N, and 10 N act from the corner of a rectangular solid
along its three edges.
a. Calculate the magnitude of the equilibrant of these three forces.
b. Determine the angle that the equilibrant makes with each of the three
forces

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I was able to solve a. by taking two vectors then using the resultant of those 2 with the third to calculate the equilibrant. But how can I know the angle with respect to each original vector? I'm not sure how to relate the angles if they are calculated on different planes
 
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zeion said:

Homework Statement



Three forces of 5 N, 8 N, and 10 N act from the corner of a rectangular solid
along its three edges.
a. Calculate the magnitude of the equilibrant of these three forces.
b. Determine the angle that the equilibrant makes with each of the three
forces


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I was able to solve a. by taking two vectors then using the resultant of those 2 with the third to calculate the equilibrant. But how can I know the angle with respect to each original vector? I'm not sure how to relate the angles if they are calculated on different planes

I would try writing down explicit vectors and using the dot product.
 


This chapter in the textbook doesn't talk about dot products though.
 


zeion said:
This chapter in the textbook doesn't talk about dot products though.

Then you'll have to use trig. The resultant vector makes a right triangle with each of the three forces. The length of the resultant is the hypotenuse and the force is a leg. And the angle is between them is what you want.
 


But then I only have 2 sides and no angles?
 


zeion said:
But then I only have 2 sides and no angles?

You have a right angle. The difference between the resultant and the forces is perpendicular to the force. Draw a picture with only two perpendicular forces.
 

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