Velocity of bungy jumper, very confusing?

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The problem involves a bungee jumper with a mass of 78 kg who jumps from a height of 69 m, attached to a 39 m cord, and falls to 6 m above the ground before the cord brings her to rest. The discussion centers around calculating the impulse exerted on the jumper by the cord as it stretches, involving concepts of energy conservation and momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for the spring constant to determine elastic potential energy and question how to find the velocity at different points in the jump. There is also consideration of the impulse formula and its components.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the spring constant may not be necessary for calculating impulse, while others argue that it is essential due to energy conversion. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the setup of the problem and the relationships between the variables involved.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the values of certain variables, such as the spring constant and the velocity at specific points in the jump. Participants are navigating the implications of these unknowns within the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A bungee jumper with a mass of 78kg tied to a 39 m cord jumps off a bridge from a height of 69 m. She falls to 6 .0m above the ground before the chord brings her momentarily to rest. Calculate the impulse exerted on the jumper by the cord as it stretches


Homework Equations


Ft = mvf - mvi
P = mv
Eg = mgh
Ep = 1/2 x k^2
Ek = 1/2 m v ^2


The Attempt at a Solution


Impulse = 0 - mvi

To find vi:

Ek1 + Eg1 = Eg2 + Ep2

So here is where I'm stuck. The equation is impossible to solve because there are two unknowns (spring constant and velocity)
 
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Why would you need the spring constant for? Once you have the velocity, you can get the change in momentum as you have the mass.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Why would you need the spring constant for? Once you have the velocity, you can get the change in momentum as you have the mass.

I need the spring constant because some energy is converted into elastic potential energy.

Ek1 + Eg1 = Eg2 + Ep2

That is the equation I've made. LS = the instant before falling, RS = on stop

So it comes out to 0.5mv^2 = mgh = mgh + 0.5kx^2

In order to find the velocity I have to have k but its an unknown. Am I doing this right? Did I set it up correctly? I know there has to be some potential energy because the rope is only 39 m long and it stretches far beyond that point as the person falls around 69 m - 6m and the rope isn't that long
 
Actually you won't need the spring constant to find the impulse of the cord. You wrote

impulse = 0 - mvi.

This will be the key! Think about the meaning of vi. What point of the jump does this refer to?

Also, for the left side of the equation do you think that represents the impulse of the cord, the impulse of the force of gravity, or the total impulse of all of the forces acting on the jumper?
 
Oops, You might indeed need the spring constant. But you should be able to find it.
 
x86 said:
I need the spring constant because some energy is converted into elastic potential energy.

Ek1 + Eg1 = Eg2 + Ep2

That is the equation I've made. LS = the instant before falling, RS = on stop

What is the velocity at "the instant before falling"?
 

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