Velocity of Motorist with Respect to Police Car at Intersection

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The problem involves two vehicles, a police car and a motorist, moving towards an intersection. The police car is positioned 800 m west of the intersection and traveling at 80 km/h west, while the motorist is 600 m north of the intersection and moving at 60 km/h south. The questions focus on determining the relative velocity of the motorist with respect to the police car, comparing this velocity to the line of sight, and considering how these values change as the vehicles approach the intersection.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using unit-vector notation for the velocities and question how to represent the relative velocity of the motorist with respect to the police car. There is a suggestion to subtract the position vectors to find the relative position, followed by a discussion on differentiating to find the velocities. Some participants express uncertainty about how to incorporate the velocities into their calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights and clarifying concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of relative motion and differentiation, though there remains uncertainty about the application of these ideas. Multiple interpretations of the approach are being explored, particularly concerning the use of velocities in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a textbook that may provide foundational knowledge on relative motion, indicating that participants are encouraged to review relevant sections before attempting the problem. Some participants express confusion about the variables involved in the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement


Two highways intersect. A police car P is 800 m west from the intersection and moving at 80km/h west. Motorist M is 600m north of the intersection and moving at 60 km/h south.
a) in the unit-vector notation, what is the velocity of the motorist with respect to the police car?
b) How does the direction of the velocity found in a) compare to the line of sight between the two cars
c) If the cars maintain their velocities, do the answers to A and B change as the cars move nearer to the intersection?


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The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I'm assuming that we're going to use i and j, so I got this:
m= 0i+600mj p=800mi+0 j

Now, I'm unsure where I'm supposed to put the velocity of each car in. Or for that matter, how am I supposed to present the velocity of the motorist in respect to the police car? Am I just supposed to subtract the two vectors?

Thanks :)
 
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sylenteck0 said:
Am I just supposed to subtract the two vectors?

Thanks :)


Yes.
In other words, try to make the co-ordinates of the police car to 0,0 by subtracting each point by the position vector of police car.

So, that would give you the relative of motor.. relative to the car.
Now differentiate, and get the velocities equations.

I did this question like last week lol :smile:

you need to read the section prior to solving these questions, and I am assuming that you haven't. That halliday book provides good enough introduction to relative motions.

btw. this is the question from halliday? That's from where I did this question.
 
Yup. Thanks for the advice :)
 
I've tried subtracting the one vector from another, but I can't find a way to get the derivative; it always ends up as zero because there's no variable. What would serve as the variable in this case?
 
sylenteck0 said:
I've tried subtracting the one vector from another, but I can't find a way to get the derivative; it always ends up as zero because there's no variable. What would serve as the variable in this case?

but you are provided both velocities(or dx/dt).
so like dp/dt = something
 
So I could theoretically use the velocities in place of the coordinates themselves?

m= 0i+ 16.66m/s t j
p=22.22m/s t i+ 0 j

Something like that? I can see finding the derivative that way =P
 

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