Impulse exerted on car during collision

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The problem involves a collision between two cars at a perpendicular intersection, where one car's speed is unknown. The objective is to determine the magnitude of the impulse exerted on each car during the collision, given their masses and initial velocities, as well as the direction and distance they traveled post-collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of momentum before and after the collision, questioning the values obtained for the velocities and the implications of those values on the impulse calculations.
  • There are inquiries about the momentum of car 1 after the collision and the need for a visual representation to understand the change in momentum.
  • Some participants suggest using trigonometric functions to resolve the momentum components based on the angle given.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning the calculations and exploring different aspects of momentum as a vector. There is no clear consensus yet, but guidance is being offered regarding the importance of considering momentum components and the need for visual aids.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on showing work and reasoning behind calculations.

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Homework Statement


Two cars are approaching a perpendicular intersection without a stop sign. Car 1 has a mass m1=900kg and is heading north at v1=25m/s. Car 2 has mass m2=700kg and is heading west at an unknown speed v2. The two cars collide at the intersection, and stick together as a result of the collision. The police report stated that after the collision, the two cars moved together in a direction 40∘ west of north and stopped after sliding d=35m from the collision point.

What is the magnitude of the impulse exerted on car 1 during the collision?

What is the magnitude of the impulse exerted on car 2 during the collision?

Homework Equations


x(t) = x_o+v_o*t+1/2*a*t^2
mv = m1v_1'+m2v_2'
J = mv_f - mv_o

The Attempt at a Solution


Velocity of car 2:
26.9711 m/s

Velocity after collision:
18.35729 m/s

Momentum of car 1 before collision: 22500 kg m/s

Momentum after collision: 1600 kg * 18.35729 = 29371.664 kg m/s

sqrt((29371.664)^2 - (22500)^2) = 18879.7
(which is equal to the momentum of car 2)

If I can figure out the first one I can do the second one I just need to know what I'm doing wrong.
 
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In PF you want to show what you did to get these numbers...
I can follow this one, but generally it's impossible to find what goes wrong where ...

Momentum of car 1 before collision: 22500 kg m/s

Momentum after collision: 1600 kg * 18.35729 = 29371.664 kg m/s
Yes, but what is the momentum of car 1 after the collision ?
And then you want to make a drawing to see what the change of momentum for car 1 is.
 
BvU said:
In PF you want to show what you did to get these numbers...
I can follow this one, but generally it's impossible to find what goes wrong where ...

Yes, but what is the momentum of car 1 after the collision ?
And then you want to make a drawing to see what the change of momentum for car 1 is.
Would that be 18.35729*900 = 16521.6? Because 16521.6^2-22500^2 is a negative. Should I just use 16521.6sin40 = 10619.9?
 
naianator said:
Would that be 18.35729*900 = 16521.6? Because 16521.6^2-22500^2 is a negative. Should I just use 16521.6sin40 = 10619.9?
thats velocity after collision*mass of car 1*sin(theta)
 
What does the drawing tell you ? Do you realize that momentum is a vector ? It has two components !
 
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