Verify this result when ## n=10 ##

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The discussion revolves around verifying a mathematical result involving divisor functions, specifically the equation ## \sum_{d\mid n}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{n}{d})=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{n}{d}) ## for the case when ## n=10 ##. Participants explore the properties of the divisor functions ## \sigma_{0} ## and ## \sigma_{2} ##.

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  • Participants discuss the values of the divisor functions, particularly questioning how to compute ## \sigma_{2}(d) ## for the divisors of 10. There is also a mention of the convolution-like nature of the formula and the relevance of the Möbius function.

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The discussion is active, with participants attempting to clarify the definitions and computations related to the divisor functions. Some have expressed uncertainty about specific terms in the proof, while others are exploring connections to broader mathematical concepts.

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There is a focus on verifying the result for ## n=10 ##, with participants noting the need for specific values of the divisor functions. The original poster's proof includes terms that are not fully defined, leading to questions about their meanings.

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Homework Statement
Prove that ## \sum_{d\mid n}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{n}{d})=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{n}{d}) ##, and verify this result when ## n=10 ##.
Relevant Equations
None.
Proof:

Observe that
\begin{align*}
\sum_{d\mid n}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{n}{d})&=(N^{2}\ast u)\ast (N^{2}\ast u) \text{ since } \sigma_{2}(n)=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\cdot 1=N^{2}\ast u)\\
&=(u\ast N^{2})\ast (N^{2}\ast u)\\
&=u\ast (N^{2}\ast N^{2})\ast u\\
&=u\ast (N^{2}\sigma_{0})\ast u \text{ since } N^{2}\ast N^{2}=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}(\frac{n^{2}}{d^{2}})=n^{2}\sum_{d\mid n}1=N^{2}\sigma_{0} \\
&=N^{2}\sigma_{0}\ast (u\ast u) \text{ since } u\ast u=\sigma_{0} \\
&=N^{2}\sigma_{0}\ast \sigma_{0}\\
&=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{n}{d}).\\
\end{align*}
Therefore, ## \sum_{d\mid n}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{n}{d})=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{n}{d}) ##.
Now we will verify this result when ## n=10 ##.
Consider the divisors ## d\in\left \{ 1, 2, 5, 10 \right \} ##.
Observe that
\begin{align*}
\sum_{d\mid 10}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{d})&\stackrel{?}{=}\sum_{d\mid 10}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{d})
\end{align*}
\begin{align*}
&\sigma_{2}(1)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{1})+\sigma_{2}(2)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{2})+\sigma_{2}(5)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{5})+\sigma_{2}(10)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{10})\\
&\stackrel{?}{=}1^{2}\sigma_{0}(1)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{1})+2^{2}\sigma_{0}(2)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{2})+5^{2}\sigma_{0}(5)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{5})+10^{2}\sigma_{0}(10)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{10}).
\end{align*}
 
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I was thinking ## \sigma_{0}(1)=1, \sigma_{0}(2)=2, \sigma_{0}(5)=2, \sigma_{0}(10)=4 ##. But what should ## \sigma_{2}(1), \sigma_{2}(2), \sigma_{2}(5), \sigma_{2}(10) ## be?
 
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Homework Statement:: Prove that ## \sum_{d\mid n}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{n}{d})=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{n}{d}) ##, and verify this result when ## n=10 ##.
Relevant Equations:: None.

Proof:

Observe that
\begin{align*}
\sum_{d\mid n}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{n}{d})&=(N^{2}\ast u)\ast (N^{2}\ast u) \text{ since } \sigma_{2}(n)=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\cdot 1=N^{2}\ast u)\\
&=(u\ast N^{2})\ast (N^{2}\ast u)\\
&=u\ast (N^{2}\ast N^{2})\ast u\\
&=u\ast (N^{2}\sigma_{0})\ast u \text{ since } N^{2}\ast N^{2}=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}(\frac{n^{2}}{d^{2}})=n^{2}\sum_{d\mid n}1=N^{2}\sigma_{0} \\
&=N^{2}\sigma_{0}\ast (u\ast u) \text{ since } u\ast u=\sigma_{0} \\
&=N^{2}\sigma_{0}\ast \sigma_{0}\\
&=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{n}{d}).\\
\end{align*}
Therefore, ## \sum_{d\mid n}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{n}{d})=\sum_{d\mid n}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{n}{d}) ##.
Now we will verify this result when ## n=10 ##.
Consider the divisors ## d\in\left \{ 1, 2, 5, 10 \right \} ##.
Observe that
\begin{align*}
\sum_{d\mid 10}\sigma_{2}(d)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{d})&\stackrel{?}{=}\sum_{d\mid 10}d^{2}\sigma_{0}(d)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{d})
\end{align*}
\begin{align*}
&\sigma_{2}(1)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{1})+\sigma_{2}(2)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{2})+\sigma_{2}(5)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{5})+\sigma_{2}(10)\sigma_{2}(\frac{10}{10})\\
&\stackrel{?}{=}1^{2}\sigma_{0}(1)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{1})+2^{2}\sigma_{0}(2)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{2})+5^{2}\sigma_{0}(5)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{5})+10^{2}\sigma_{0}(10)\sigma_{0}(\frac{10}{10}).
\end{align*}
I corrected the LaTeX. I cannot check the proof since I still don't know what ##N## and ##u## are.

The equation where I added a question mark needs to be checked, i.e. you have to calculate the sigma function values and add them. We have
$$
\sigma_k(n) =\sum_{d|n}d^k
$$
This means that ##\sigma_0## is the number of divisors, e.g. ##\sigma_0(10)= |\{1,2,5,10\}|=4.## For ##\sigma_2## we have to calculate e.g.
$$
\sigma_2(10) =\sum_{d|10}d^2=\sum_{d\in \{1,2,5,10\}} d^2 =1^2+2^2+5^2+10^2=130
$$

Or you look up the values in the table here:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teilerfunktion
 
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fresh_42 said:
I corrected the LaTeX. I cannot check the proof since I still don't know what ##N## and ##u## are.

The equation where I added a question mark needs to be checked, i.e. you have to calculate the sigma function values and add them. We have
$$
\sigma_k(n) =\sum_{d|n}d^k
$$
This means that ##\sigma_0## is the number of divisors, e.g. ##\sigma_0(10)= |\{1,2,5,10\}|=4.## For ##\sigma_2## we have to calculate e.g.
$$
\sigma_2(10) =\sum_{d|10}d^2=\sum_{d\in \{1,2,5,10\}} d^2 =1^2+2^2+5^2+10^2=130
$$

Or you look up the values in the table here:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teilerfunktion
It's okay, you don't necessarily need to check the proof. I just wanted to know how to compute those values at the end, the verification part.
 
Math100 said:
It's okay, you don't necessarily need to check the proof. I just wanted to know how to compute those values at the end, the verification part.
The formula looks like a convolution, a variation of
$$
(f\ast g)(n)=\sum_{k\in D} f(k) g(n/k).
$$
Would be nice to understand the details, i.e. to see the proof why the divisor formulas can be written that way.
 
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I think I have found it in a book. Möbius function seems to be the key word.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I think I have found it in a book. Möbius function seems to be the key word.
What book?
 
Math100 said:
What book?
A book on number theory. It's been a long time since I last time had a look.
 
fresh_42 said:
A book on number theory. It's been a long time since I last time had a look.
I see. And the results when ## n=10 ## match each other in the equation. It's ## 130+130+130+130=4+16+100+400=520 ##.
 
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