Verifying Inner Product Space: q(x)e^-(x^2/2)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around verifying whether functions of the form q(x)e^-(x^2/2), where q(x) is a polynomial of degree less than N, form an inner product space on the interval from -∞ to ∞. Participants explore the conditions necessary for these functions to satisfy the properties of an inner product space and how to specify the dimension of such a space.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the dimension of the space is N and claims it forms an inner product space due to the finiteness of the integral of the product of any two such functions.
  • Another participant proposes checking the definition of an inner product, listing conditions that must be satisfied for the functions to be considered an inner product space.
  • Concerns are raised regarding vector spaces of functions potentially failing the condition that &langle f,f&rangle=0 implies f=0, citing an example of a function that does not meet this condition.
  • A later reply asserts that since the function is zero almost everywhere, it qualifies as an inner product space and mentions completeness, referring to it as L2.
  • Another participant introduces the idea of defining an equivalence relation for functions that are equal almost everywhere, suggesting a way to define an inner product on equivalence classes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the functions form a true inner product space or a semi-inner product space, with no consensus reached on the definitions and implications of these terms.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve the limitations of defining inner products for functions that are zero almost everywhere and the implications of equivalence relations in this context. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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Hi everyone!

I would like to ask how would you verify if functions form an inner product space? For example, if one has functions of the form q(x)e^-(x^2/2) where q(x) is a polynomial of degree < N in x, on the interval -∞ < x < ∞. Also, how would you specify the dimension of the space, if it exists?

Thank you!
 
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The dimension is N. It forms an inner product space, since the integral of the product of any two such functions is finite (the exponential term insures this).
 
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Check using the definition of an inner product would be my initial suggestion.

1) (u|u)\geq 0 and 0 iff u = 0
2) (\alpha u+ \beta v|w) = \alpha (u|w) + \beta (v|w) Aka that it is linear

If this holds true \forall u,v,w then the inner product is defined for the said space and is thus a inner product space (given of course that it is in a vector space to begin with)
 
Note that vector spaces whose elements are functions usually fail the condition \langle f,f\rangle=0\Rightarrow 0. (Define f by f(x)=1 when x=0 and f(x)=0 otherwise; then \langle f,f\rangle=0 but f≠0). Such a space is sometimes called a semi-inner product space.
 
Fredrik said:
Note that vector spaces whose elements are functions usually fail the condition \langle f,f\rangle=0\Rightarrow 0. (Define f by f(x)=1 when x=0 and f(x)=0 otherwise; then \langle f,f\rangle=0 but f≠0). Such a space is sometimes called a semi-inner product space.

Since f = 0 almost everywhere, this will be an inner product space. Moreover it is complete, so it is L2.
 
mathman said:
Since f = 0 almost everywhere, this will be an inner product space.
By definition of inner product, it's not. But you can define an equivalence relation by saying that f~g if f=g almost everywhere, and then define an inner product on the set of equivalence classes by \langle [f],[g]\rangle=\langle f,g\rangle. That's an inner product on the left and a semi-inner product on the right.
 
Thank you so much for the insights! All of your comments gave me an idea on how to attack the problem! Thanks once again!
 

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