Verifying Solution: U(x, y) = cos(x) cosh(y) for PDE U_xx + U_yy = 0

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The discussion revolves around verifying whether the functions \( U_1(x, y) = \cos(x) \cosh(y) \) and \( U_2(x, y) = \ln(x^2 + y^2) \) are solutions to the partial differential equation \( U_{xx} + U_{yy} = 0 \). Participants explore the calculations of the second derivatives and their implications for the solutions of the PDE.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about how to derive the second derivatives for \( U_1 \) and ask for clarification on the process.
  • Others provide calculations for the first and second derivatives of \( U_1 \), noting that \( U_{1xx} = -\cos(x) \cosh(y) \) and \( U_{1yy} = \cos(x) \cosh(y) \), leading to a cancellation in the equation.
  • Some participants suggest that when calculating \( U_{xx} \), one can treat \( \cosh(y) \) as a constant during differentiation with respect to \( x \).
  • For \( U_2 \), participants present calculations showing \( U_{2xx} = -\frac{2(x^2 - y^2)}{(x^2 + y^2)^2} \) and \( U_{2yy} = \frac{2(x^2 - y^2)}{(x^2 + y^2)^2} \), concluding that \( U_2 \) satisfies the PDE.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the calculations for \( U_2 \) being a solution to the PDE, while there is some uncertainty and lack of consensus regarding the verification process for \( U_1 \).

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the differentiation process and the treatment of constants, indicating potential gaps in understanding the application of differentiation rules in the context of PDEs.

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Verify that the given function is a solution to the partial differential equation

$U_{xx} + U_{yy} = 0$

$U_1 (x, y) =cos(x) cosh(y) $

Sorry I really didn't know how to to get U(x, y) into this
$$\frac{dU^2}{d^2 x}+\frac{dU^2}{d^2 y}=0$$
 
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karush said:
Verify that the given function is a solution to the partial differential equation

$U_{xx} + U_{yy} = 0$

$U_1 (x, y) =cos(x) cosh(y) $

Sorry I really didn't know how to to get U(x, y) into this
$$\frac{dU^2}{d^2 x}+\frac{dU^2}{d^2 y}=0$$

Hello! I wish you a happy new year!$U_{1x}= -\sin x cosh y $

$U_{1xx}=-\cos x \cosh y$

$U_{1y}=\cos x \sinh y$

$U_{1yy}=\cos x \cosh y$

So what is $U_{1xx}+ U_{1yy}$ equal to?
 
OK I see that they just cancel each other So the double derivative you just deal with whatever x or y is?
 
karush said:
OK I see that they just cancel each other So the double derivative you just deal with whatever x or y is?

If tou want to find $U_{1xx}$ you derive twice in respect to x and you consider $\cosh y$ as a constant.
 
OK now we have $U_2 (x, y) =ln(x^2 +y^2)$
So
$$\frac{dU_2 ^2 } {dx^2} =\frac{-2\left({x}^{2}-{y}^{2 }\right)}{({x}^{2}+{y}^{2})}$$
And
$$\frac{dU_2 ^2 } {dy^2} =\frac{2\left({x}^{2}-{y}^{2 }\right)}{({x}^{2}{y}^{2})}$$
Then
U_xx + U_yy = 0
 
karush said:
OK now we have $U_2 (x, y) =ln(x^2 +y^2)$
So
$$\frac{dU_2 ^2 } {dx^2} =\frac{-2\left({x}^{2}-{y}^{2 }\right)}{({x}^{2}+{y}^{2})}$$
And
$$\frac{dU_2 ^2 } {dy^2} =\frac{2\left({x}^{2}-{y}^{2 }\right)}{({x}^{2}{y}^{2})}$$
Then
U_xx + U_yy = 0

If $$U_2(x,y)=\ln\left(x^2+y^2\right)$$

then:

$${U_2}_{xx}=-\frac{2\left(x^2-y^2\right)}{\left(x^2+y^2\right)^2}$$

$${U_2}_{yy}=\frac{2\left(x^2-y^2\right)}{\left(x^2+y^2\right)^2}$$

And so yes, $U_2$ is a solution to the PDE:

$$U_{xx}+U_{yy}=0$$
 

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