Yep. my take as well of the media coverage.By and large: according dems, Biden won; according to reps, Ryan won.
They both won with respect to their own bases, tied with respect to undecided, and lost with respect to opposite base.
Ryan didn't do poorly, Biden just seemed to manage to put Ryan on the defensive from the begining and it stayed that way.On substance, I thought that each of them spent their time mischaracterizing everything. On style I though Biden was amazingly rude and that Ryan looked vice-presidential, whatever that means.
The real winner was the moderator, Martha Raddatz. She should do the Presidential Debate.