Violation of spin conservation in pion annihilation

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of spin in pion annihilation reactions, specifically the process where pion-antipion pairs annihilate to produce photons. Participants explore whether spin conservation is violated in this context and examine the implications for angular momentum conservation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that in the annihilation of pions, the total spin before the reaction is 0 and after is 2, suggesting a violation of spin conservation.
  • Another participant counters that total angular momentum is conserved, explaining that two spin-1 photons can have antiparallel spins, resulting in a total angular momentum of zero.
  • There is a clarification regarding the notation for pions, with one participant noting that "p" is not the standard symbol for pions, which is ##\pi##.
  • A later reply mentions that the same conservation reasoning applies to protons and antiprotons, which also annihilate into two spin-1 photons with antiparallel spins.
  • One participant challenges the initial claim about total spin before and after the reaction, labeling it as false.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the conservation of spin in the context of pion annihilation, with some arguing that spin is conserved while others assert it is not. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of spin and angular momentum in the context of particle reactions, as well as the implications of different particle types involved in annihilation processes.

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##\pi^\pm## are mutual particle-antiparticle pairs, while ##\pi^0## is it's own antiparticle. All has a spin of 0.
In any annihilation reaction of a particle ##x##, the equation is
$$x+\bar{x}\to \gamma+\gamma$$
Photons have no charge but a spin 1. I can see charges are conserved but spin is not since the total spin before the reaction is 0 while after the reaction is 2. Is there a solution to this or am I just wrong?
Sorry the LaTeX here behaves differently from the one on my computer.
 
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Trollfaz said:
Is there a solution to this or am I just wrong?
What's conserved in these reactions is the total angular momentum. For spin-0 pions in the center-of-mass frame, the reaction ##\pi+\bar{\pi}\rightarrow\gamma+\gamma## results in two spin-1 photons travelling in opposite directions with their spins antiparallel, so the total angular-momentum is zero both before and after the reaction.
 
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So p is your symbol for pion? The general symbol for pion is ##\pi## p represents proton
 
Trollfaz said:
So p is your symbol for pion? The general symbol for pion is ##\pi## p represents proton
Yes, and I've edited post #2 to reflect that notation. But same conservation reasoning also applies to protons and antiprotons: two spin-##\frac{1}{2}## particles annihilate to two spin-1 photons with antiparallel spins.
 
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Trollfaz said:
In any annihilation reaction of a particle , the equation is
False.
Trollfaz said:
total spin before the reaction is 0 while after the reaction is 2.
False.
 

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