Virginity for sale to pay for grad school

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A college student in Sacramento, California, is attempting to fund her graduate education by auctioning off her virginity at the Bunny Ranch, a legal brothel in Nevada. This has sparked a debate about the legality and morality of such actions, with some participants questioning whether this constitutes prostitution. The discussion touches on the complexities of prostitution laws in Nevada, where brothels are legal in certain counties, and the societal perceptions surrounding sex work. Many comments reflect on the double standards regarding sexual relationships, contrasting paid sex with casual encounters. The conversation also humorously explores the implications of selling virginity versus other forms of income generation, like selling organs. Overall, the thread highlights varying opinions on the ethics of sex work, the student's motivations, and the legal nuances involved in her plan.
  • #51
mcknia07 said:
Hmmm, well...not much i guess. Who knows
How old did you think I was anyhow?

I normally assume that there are no girls what so ever on forums like this. Where is it that smart girls like to hang out? I'm tired of all the dumb brauds that have an attention span of a gold fish.

BTW, I'm 22 and people say I look like Leonardo Decaprio. Can I stick my finger in your nose?
 
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  • #52
lol, Sorry to disappoint you, lol. Yes that's when I graduated. :biggrin:
 
  • #53
Topher925 said:
I normally assume that there are no girls what so ever on forums like this. Where is it that smart girls like to hang out? I'm tired of all the dumb brauds that have an attention span of a gold fish.

BTW, I'm 22 and people say I look like Leonardo Decaprio. Can I stick my finger in your nose?

Well, I'm normally working or at school, lol.

And well I might have to take you up on that offer, lol. Are you going to pay more and for my schooling?
 
  • #54
Evo said:
It sounds like she's breaking the law according to Nevada laws and I'll bet she gets arrested. :smile:

What law?
 
  • #55
mcknia07 said:
Well, I'm normally working or at school, lol.

And well I might have to take you up on that offer, lol. Are you going to pay more and for my schooling?

I'm in grad school, do you honestly think I have money? I can give you $5 and an Arby's coupon. Is that enough?
 
  • #56
Topher925 said:
I'm in grad school, do you honestly think I have money? I can give you $5 and an Arby's coupon. Is that enough?

Hmm, I'll have to think about that one...It does sound pretty good, though you might have to change the Arby's coupon to something more healthy, lol.
 
  • #57
rootX said:
Sex:
- Never get back virginity

I'm not so sure about that.

I think there are women in Tijuana that sell their virginity 5 to 10 times a night.

Hey Meeester, I have a seester ...
 
  • #58
mcknia07 said:
Hmm, I'll have to think about that one...It does sound pretty good, though you might have to change the Arby's coupon to something more healthy, lol.

You damn tease! I see how you are. No tease is the wrong word. What's a bad thing to call someone who doesn't like me, but does like someone else? there's got to be a bad word for that
 
  • #59
Whoever said being a tease is bad?
 
  • #60
Why would you pay to have sex with someone who does not know what they are doing? She's probably going to tug on that thing and break it off.

But as my friend once said: Remember, you're not paying to have sex with her. You're paying for her to leave afterwards.

She also looks like the typical girl on porn websites too. Kinda ironic.
 
  • #61
She doesn't "look" like the typical virgin. Though I don't truly think there is a "set" look on this matter either. It's more like us being human and being kind of judgemental.
 
  • #62
mcknia07 said:
lol, Sorry to disappoint you, lol. Yes that's when I graduated. :biggrin:
wow.. are you a super genius that graduated in a year, or something (I guess you use graduated in the crazy American sense to mean "left high school").

Anyway, yea I agree that she definitely doesn't look like a virgin (especially in those pictures on the video!)
 
  • #63
cristo said:
wow.. are you a super genius that graduated in a year, or something (I guess you use graduated in the crazy American sense to mean "left high school").

Anyway, yea I agree that she definitely doesn't look like a virgin (especially in those pictures on the video!)

Yeah, I mean graduated high school, lol. It's the way "us" Americans talk, not always the best way.
 
  • #64
That reminds me of this joke:
A lawyer got married to a woman who had previously been married 12 times.

On their wedding night, they settled into the bridal suite at their hotel and the bride said to her new room, "Please, promise to be gentle. I am still a virgin."

This puzzled the groom, since after 12 marriages, he thought that at least one of her husbands would have been able to perform. He asked his new bride to explain the phenomenon.

She responded:

My first husband was an IBM Sales Representative who spent the entire marriage telling me, in grandiose terms, how great it was going to be, but never delivered.

My second husband was from Software Services; he was never quite sure how it was supposed to function, but he promised he would send me documentation.

My third husband was from Field Services and repeatedly said that everything was diagnostically OK, but couldn't get the system up.

My fourth husband was from Educational Services, and you know the old saying - 'Those who CAN, DO; those who can't, teach.'

My fifth husband was from the Telemarketing Department. He knew he had the order, but he wasn't quite sure when he was going to be able to deliver.

My sixth husband was an Engineer. He told me that he understood the basic process but needed three years to research, implement, and design a new state-of-the-art method.

My seventh husband was from Finance and administration. He knew how, but he just wasn't sure whether it was his job or not.

My eighth husband was from Standards and Regulations, and he told me that he met the minimum standards but regulations weren't clear on how to do it.

My ninth husband was a Marketing Manager. Even though he had the product, he just wasn't sure how to position it.

My tenth husband was a psychiatrist. All he ever wanted to do was talk about it.

My eleventh husband was a gynecologist, and all he ever wanted to do was look at it.

My twelfth husband was a stamp collector, and all he ever wanted to do was collect stamps."

- God I miss him!

So now I've married you, and I'm really excited."

"Why is that," asked the lawyer.

"Well, it should be obvious! You're a lawyer! I just know I'm going to really get screwed this time!"
cristo said:
Like one of the comments on that page says.. isn't this prostitution?

Since it's because of love (love of education), it couldn't be prostitution!:-p
 
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  • #65
tribdog said:
Why do so many people think it is bad to have sex for money, but its okay to sleep around for free?
For a similar reason that it is OK to adopt a child but not to buy one.

The idea is that some things just can't be valued in $. But things that come from the heart are above judgement.

[EDIT: D'oh! I hate discovering, after quoting someone, that a thread is pages longer than I thought]
 
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  • #66
humanino said:
My question is otherwise : why do men imagine it's great to sleep with a virgin ?
Innocence is extremely attractive to many. No, that that kind!, but the very first few fleeting moments of young desire. As we age, our fantasies are often to recapture that time of innocence.

And, when you finally sit down to create your long-fantasized perfect artwork/novel, do you just flip over a used piece of recycled paper, or do you pull a nice clean sheet out of the box?

[Oh man. That's crass in so many ways.]
 
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  • #67
rootX said:
Selling kidney:
- Never get it back
- It can be painful
- Time consuming: Negotiate and visit doctor!
- More harmful
+ More money (might pay all tuition)
(?) Can get the kidney back tomorrow?

Sex:
- Never get back virginity
- Less money
+ It's fun
+ It's quicker

With respect to money, kidney is better. So, she should sell her kidney!
I was favoring sex before.

Isn't it illegal to sell body parts?

Besides, all she has to do to make it legal is to film the act and sell the videos over the internet. Sex during prostitution is illegal. Sex during the making of a movie isn't.
 
  • #68
Cyrus said:
Why would you pay to have sex with someone who does not know what they are doing? She's probably going to tug on that thing and break it off.

But as my friend once said: Remember, you're not paying to have sex with her. You're paying for her to leave afterwards.

She also looks like the typical girl on porn websites too. Kinda ironic.

You also have to realize she's probably only a virgin by technicality. She's an oral master and has had it in her bum a couple hundred times. (I made this up, but its possible)
 
  • #69
tribdog said:
why? It's her choice. If she looks at the guy and doesn't like what she sees she can say no. At any time during the act she can say stop. They will have safe sex. What if I offered you $100,000 to let me put my little finger in your nose? It is the same thing, except that the sex one feels better.

tribdog said:
you would turn down 100,000? because it's a little weird? 100,000?
I could have sex with you for the price of dinner and a couple bottles of wine.
Edit: you are old enough I hope

Topher925 said:
I'm in grad school, do you honestly think I have money? I can give you $5 and an Arby's coupon. Is that enough?

Isn't this auction going the wrong direction? tribdog bids $100,000 and loses to $5 and an Arby's coupon? :smile: Didn't you read the thread about tribdog's landlady thinking he was a Romeo? Granted, none of us actually know this landlady and we only have tribdog's word about the incident, but his posts on PF speak for themselves. :rolleyes:
 
  • #70
rootX said:
Selling kidney:
- Never get it back
- It can be painful
- Time consuming: Negotiate and visit doctor!
- More harmful
+ More money (might pay all tuition)
(?) Can get the kidney back tomorrow?

Sex:
- Never get back virginity
- Less money
+ It's fun
+ It's quicker

With respect to money, kidney is better. So, she should sell her kidney!
I was favoring sex before.

What's the big deal with being virgin?

I wouldn't want a virgin and surely wouldn't pay for it.
 
  • #71
Maybe she's also doing it to have a "memorable/pleasant" "first time". I remember when I lost my virginity, it was a terrible experience. Like one of those memories you want to just push into the back of your head and never revisit it. Maybe she thinks that if she gets some experienced rich guy it will be nice.
 
  • #72
JasonRox said:
What's the big deal with being virgin?

I wouldn't want a virgin and surely wouldn't pay for it.

It's not an opinion. Once she has sex, she loses her virginity by definition. But, I think no smart person would choose virgin as a sex partner (I wouldn't). Whores are the best!
Japanese use dolls

I didn't care about legal issues because only thing she wants is money and anything is good as far as she is not hurting someone's else interests (risk goes up if she tries to hurt someone).
 
  • #73
rootX said:
(risk goes up if she tries to hurt someone).

If she is an inexperienced virgin there is a risk that she may hurt someone. It all boils down to the correct technique, and the technique comes with experience.
 
  • #74
rootX said:
... I think no smart person would choose virgin as a sex partner...
You would be mistaken.

Another crass metaphor:

You want your dream pair of hiking boots.

While their purpose may be for walking, I don't know how many people would prefer to get a pair that are comfortable and ready for the trail after having been broken in by someone else.

Most people prefer them fresh and spanking new, in the box, despite the fact that they're still stiff as boards so that they chafe the feet for the first while until they're broken in.

See, a dream pair of boots is not simply about the walking. You'll happily put up with the chafing for a bit because the experience of getting them starts from the moment you open the box and inhale the leathery aroma.

The breaking-in process is part of the joy of a new pair of boots; the knowledge that "this is mine!"

Hiking boots may not be the best metaphor for you. Substitute your own dream object that isn't fully-functional when it comes out of the box. Car, telescope, bouyancy-compensator...
 
  • #75
You are thinking too nice.
I think the person who buys her is thinking, "OHH! A virgin for me to defile. I'm going to show her what the dark side is all about."
 
  • #76
Borek said:
If she is an inexperienced virgin there is a risk that she may hurt someone. It all boils down to the correct technique, and the technique comes with experience.

Do you have any statistics on how many people are injured by having sex with a virgin? :smile:
 
  • #77
BobG said:
Do you have any statistics on how many people are injured by having sex with a virgin? :smile:

If her dad finds out, a bunch.
 
  • #78
tribdog said:
You are thinking too nice.
I think the person who buys her is thinking, "OHH! A virgin for me to defile. I'm going to show her what the dark side is all about."
There's that too.

But I wasn't really talking about this specific case, I was merely arguing why some people find innocence attractive.
 
  • #79
BobG said:
Do you have any statistics on how many people are injured by having sex with a virgin? :smile:

I know of one person; he and she were standing up in a hammock and he fell on his cranium :biggrin:

At least that is the story that was going around.
 
  • #80
edward said:
I know of one person; he and she were standing up in a hammock and he fell on his cranium :biggrin:

At least that is the story that was going around.

I injured my shoulder once.
 
  • #81
edward said:
I wonder if the Bunny Ranch accepts paypal :biggrin:

or laypal? ...paylay?
 
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  • #82
edward said:
I know of one person; he and she were standing up in a hammock and he fell on his cranium :biggrin:

At least that is the story that was going around.

JasonRox said:
I injured my shoulder once.

And at least one of the partners was a virgin, right?

I think schools should hand out bubble wrap along with condoms.
 
  • #83
I had a virgin once.
Had to go to Guatemala for her.
She was blind in one eye
and she had a stuffed alligator that said
"Welcome to Miami Beach"

- obscure reference
Hint: Steve Railsback, opposite Peter O'Toole, 1980
 
  • #84
Anyway, so is this legal? Has anyone spotted a law that she is violating?
 
  • #85
If she takes the money anywhere but the Bunny Ranch there would be a problem. Other than that it looks okay to me.
 
  • #86
Ivan Seeking said:
Anyway, so is this legal? Has anyone spotted a law that she is violating?
Well, if the server hosting the solicitation is in a state where it is legal, she should be in the clear. Then if prostitution takes place in another state where it's legal, she should be in the clear with that too. So woo-hoo, we have a legal interstate solicitation/prostitution system. You could have a legal brothel straddling two states: solicitation desk at the front in one state, prostitution rooms at the back in the other state. I should get a commission for this tip. Would that make me a pimp? Because that would be pretty cool...
 
  • #87
out of whack said:
Would that make me a pimp? Because that would be pretty cool...

:rolleyes:

You might try setting your goals a wee bit higher.
 
  • #88
Its illegal to be a pimp in nevada. I think.
 
  • #89
Ivan Seeking said:
:rolleyes:

You might try setting your goals a wee bit higher.
Yeah, maybe I would make better money with a newspaper route.
 
  • #90
tribdog said:
Its illegal to be a pimp in nevada. I think.
Then we need a tri-state system.
 
  • #91
She will have to report the income to the IRS. I wonder if they have a special form for that, they do for most everything else. :-p
 
  • #92
edward said:
She will have to report the income to the IRS. I wonder if they have a special form for that, they do for most everything else. :-p

She just has to fill out a 1040ImEZ.

haha, made myself laugh.
 
  • #93
Ivan Seeking said:
or laypal? ...paylay?

I see a new business venture about to sprout.

"Use Paylay for all of your illicit business expenses"

Some restrictions may apply, not available in all areas, void in Alaska
 
  • #94
tribdog said:
She just has to fill out a 1040ImEZ.

haha, made myself laugh.

:smile:
 
  • #95
edward said:
I wonder if the Bunny Ranch accepts paypal :biggrin:

That brings a whole new meaning to the word "Pay Pal" :biggrin:

humanino said:
I think virgin people should be the one to pay to be slept with.

I don't know. I've never slept with a virgin, though I did have sex once when I was a virgin. We lasted a long time after that, and he didn't seem to have a problem with that. I think there's a bit of difference between a 15 yr old virgin that a lot of guys get (when they are 15 too) and a 22 yr old virgin who may not have gone out on the test drive yet, but certainly has studied the manual. Aside from DaveC's hiking boot analogy, there may also be some, um, "tactile" advantages for a guy to have sex with a virgin. While tight hiking boots might not be very comfortable...I'll let you fill out the rest for yourselves.
 
  • #96
edward said:
I see a new business venture about to sprout.
Of course. Get Greg to setup a Playpal account for the new PF Lounge/Pimping subforum. Where's the server? (So we know where else to market. This has to be legal to abide by forum rules.)

Moonbear said:
there may also be some, um, "tactile" advantages for a guy to have sex with a virgin. While tight hiking boots might not be very comfortable...I'll let you fill out the rest for yourselves.
Sounds good. You're in charge of marketing for the Virgin division.
 
  • #97
Borek said:
If she is an inexperienced virgin there is a risk that she may hurt someone. It all boils down to the correct technique, and the technique comes with experience.

Moonbear said:
I did have sex once when I was a virgin...

While tight hiking boots might not be very comfortable...I'll let you fill out the rest for yourselves.
You made him wear your hiking boots during sex?!

Okay, Borek has a point, but I doubt his injuries were any more serious than a minor blister or two.
 
  • #98
It's amazing to see all of my family members coming and watching just this single thread, 7 pages lasted thus far
 
  • #99
BobG said:
Okay, Borek has a point, but I doubt his injuries were any more serious than a minor blister or two.

Nothing can prevent idiots from getting killed/visiting emergency from safe sex: some of the Darwin award winners :smile:
 
  • #100
It sounds just like a fable.
 

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