Volume expansion of different gases

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the volume expansion of different gases when subjected to heat at constant pressure. Participants explore whether various gases expand to different volumes under equal conditions and seek examples of gases with significant expansion rates compared to others.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that all gases expand at the same rate under consistent pressure when heated, questioning if different gases expand to different volumes.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the term "expand at different volumes," indicating potential confusion regarding the concept.
  • A participant provides an example comparing the volume expansion of oxygen at different temperatures, seeking to identify a gas that expands significantly more than oxygen under similar conditions.
  • One participant points out that the term "sq/ft" is a unit of area, not volume, and suggests that the ideal gas law implies that the expansion rate does not depend on the identity of the gas.
  • A participant acknowledges the misunderstanding regarding units and clarifies that they meant to refer to a cubic foot of gas.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the expansion characteristics of gases, with some uncertainty regarding the definitions and units involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding whether specific gases exhibit greater volume expansion than others.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the definitions of volume and area, as well as the assumptions underlying the discussion of gas expansion. The applicability of the ideal gas law to the expansion rates of different gases is also not fully explored.

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first i want to apologize if I'm posting this in the wrong section. my first post here.

I know that all gases expand at the same rate at consistent pressure when heated. My question is do different gases expand at different volumes under equal pressure and heat? If so what would be some examples of gases that expand in volume, to a much greater degree then other gases.

thank you,

Jay
 
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I am not sure what you mean by "expand at different volumes", please elaborate.

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ok say for example, you have oxygen that occupies a volume of 1 sq/ft at 25 degrees F. If the temperature of the oxygen where to rise to 30 degrees F, the volume of oxygen would expand to a greater volume then 1 sq/ft. What I am looking for is a known gas that has a very large expansion rate so to speak.

Again for example, If oxygen was 1 sq/ft at 25 degrees F, and then was to expand to a volume of 1.2 sq/ft at 30 degrees F, what gas would expand to a much larger volume then that of oxygen with the rise in temperature?

In comparison to solid items, copper will have a linear expansion much greater then that of glass with a rise in temperature. I'm looking for the "copper" of gases so to speak.
 
sq/ft - as far as I understand is a square feet, that's not a volume unit.

Most gases at reasonable conditions are pretty well approximated by ideal gas equation - so the "expansion rate" doesn't depend on the gas identity. That's why I had doubts if I understand what you mean.

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your totally right!
i mean to say a cubic foot of gas.
 

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