Walking Speed of a Dinosaur: How Does Leg Length Affect Natural Walking Pace?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between leg length and the natural walking pace of dinosaurs, specifically focusing on the Tyrannosaurus rex. The original poster presents a problem involving the calculation of walking speed based on leg length and stride length, using principles of physics related to motion and pendulum dynamics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the walking speed of Tyrannosaurus rex using formulas related to the period of motion and angular frequency. Some participants question the correctness of the equations used, particularly regarding the angular frequency of a uniform rod compared to a simple pendulum.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the equations involved in the problem. There is a focus on identifying errors in the original poster's approach, particularly concerning the derivation of the angular frequency. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct form of the equations, but no consensus has been reached on the overall solution.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the application of formulas for different types of pendulums, specifically the distinction between a uniform rod and a simple pendulum. The original poster's calculations are based on assumptions that may not align with the physical setup described.

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All walking animals, including humans, have a natural walking pace, a number of steps per minute that is more comfortable than a faster or slower pace. Suppose this natural pace is equal to the period of the leg, viewed as a uniform rod pivoted at the hip joint. A) How does the natural walking pace depend on the length L of the leg, measured from hip to foot? B) Fossil evidence shows that Tyrannosaurus rex, a two-legged dinosaur that lived about 65 million years ago at the end of the Cretaceous period, had a leg length L = 3.1 m and a stride length (the distance from one foot-print to the next print of the same foot ) S = 4.0 m. Estimate the walking speed of Tyrannosaurus rex.


Homework Equations



I=(m*L^2)/3
T=2*pi/w


The Attempt at a Solution



T=2*pi/w=2*pi/sqrt(Lmg/I)

I=(m*L^2)/3

T=pi*sqrt(4L/3g)=2.04s

v=s/T=4m/2.04s=1.96m/s

But the answer says that T=2pi*sqrt(2L/3g)=2.88s
v=s/T=4m/2.88s=1.4m/s
 
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you've said, you've seen the answer is T=2pi*sqrt(2L/3g), But you have used: T=2pi*sqrt(L/3g), so this is where the problem is. I guess the problem stems from the first line, where you seemed to use w=sqrt(Lmg/I), but this is not true (which is why you end up with an incorrect answer for the period of the motion).
 
BruceW said:
you've said, you've seen the answer is T=2pi*sqrt(2L/3g), But you have used: T=2pi*sqrt(L/3g), so this is where the problem is. I guess the problem stems from the first line, where you seemed to use w=sqrt(Lmg/I), but this is not true (which is why you end up with an incorrect answer for the period of the motion).

Why is w=sqrt(Lmg/I) incorrect?
 
That equation for the angular frequency is correct for a pendulum where there is a small bob on the end of a light, inextensible string. But in this question, the pendulum is a uniform rod. So that equation for the angular frequency is not correct.

Are you meant to derive the equation for the angular frequency of a pendulum made of a uniform rod? If not, you can guess what it is, since you've seen the answer. The rest of your working is correct, its just the angular frequency which was wrong.
 

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