Was Excessive Force Used by Washington State Deputy on Teen?

  • Thread starter Thread starter cristo
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Video
Click For Summary
Video footage has emerged showing a Washington state sheriff's deputy, Paul Schene, using excessive force against a 15-year-old girl during her arrest related to a car theft inquiry. The incident escalated after the girl kicked her shoe at the deputy, leading to him striking her and throwing her to the ground. Many commentators argue that the officer's actions were unjustifiable, regardless of the girl's behavior, emphasizing that police should not abuse their power. Concerns were raised about the adequacy of police training in managing anger and the potential for bias in public perceptions of such incidents. The discussion highlights the need for accountability and reform in law enforcement practices to prevent future occurrences of police brutality.
  • #31
moe darklight said:
If you can't handle a moody 15 year old girl, you should not be given authorities and responsibilities that are above those of the average citizen; you should not be a cop.
.

Yes, exactly. He shouldn't have his policeman position. Putting all the blame on him and taking away his position wouldn't solve this problem (if you consider this as a serious problem) and neither it would be fair.
I do believe that they need to have greater control over themselves but they aren't perfectionists. They make mistakes!
If you set their standards too high, you wouldn't get enough policemen.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #32
siddharth said:
Why is not true, in this instance? The police officer had no justification for his behaviour, irrespective of the behavior of the girl (who was a minor, and did not pose any physical threat). I think this officer deserves 100% of the blame.
See above post.

Why is that? I think that it's important to give public scrutiny to such incidents, especially when we consider the powers and responsibilities which is expected of the police. I've seen a worrying number of such incidents of late, and public exposure could raise awareness of certain problems in the system, and might lead to measures to correct it.

They can't get fair trails for professional misconduct if the case gets more than required public scrutiny/media focus. It's better to have a good regulation body that considers the case rather than subjecting it to public opinions.
 
Last edited:
  • #33
Imprisonment and psychological rehabilitation. It matters not how much someone acts like an ******* or swears, force is never the answer unless it is for self defense.

That being said, I'm not surprised at this at all. Almost all that is required to become a police officer is that the applicant doesn't have a history of mental illness or a criminal background, and that they be relatively healthy and in shape. Besides that, the screening process isn't very rigorous.
 
  • #34
Scuzzle said:
Imprisonment and psychological rehabilitation. It matters not how much someone acts like an ******* or swears, force is never the answer unless it is for self defense.

That being said, I'm not surprised at this at all. Almost all that is required to become a police officer is that the applicant doesn't have a history of mental illness or a criminal background, and that they be relatively healthy and in shape. Besides that, the screening process isn't very rigorous.

Please. My town is right next to http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_56314.html" . This is 12 years ago, but it is still interesting.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #35
Chi Meson said:
Please. My town is right next to http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_56314.html" . This is 12 years ago, but it is still interesting.

What a stupid attitude. Any intelligent person would know how to get the target score :smile:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #36
My buddies and I got arrested for possession of hashish and underage drinking in 1976. At the police station, we laughed at a policeman attempting to reassemble my bong. He then said with a wry smile "if they move, shoot them." The threat was all too real. After 35 years, I still remember the name of the arresting officer - Officer Snook(s).
 
  • #37
"Snickering follows Mountie's claim he feared man with stapler"

The judge in the case here of a man coincidentally dieing after being tazered at Vancouver airport has asked the jury not to laugh as the mounties describe how they feared for their lives as the man held a stapler.
 
  • #38
mgb_phys said:
"Snickering follows Mountie's claim he feared man with stapler"

The judge in the case here of a man coincidentally dieing after being tazered at Vancouver airport has asked the jury not to laugh as the mounties describe how they feared for their lives as the man held a stapler.


...wait. Was it aa red swingline? I totally understand their fear.
 
  • #39
It's on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPe_hf7aBXM
 
  • #40
Evo said:
Wow, this guy needs to be behind bars. He killed a guy that ran back to his car, he fired 11 times!

He killed a man that tried to strangle him to death, not running from the police or talking back. And firing 11 times isn't a big deal, it's one clip. It can/is fired off in about 2 seconds.

That being said, what happened in the video, from what can be seen, is pretty much a criminal offence.
 
  • #41
I don't see what the officers did wrong in the video, that guy was loony.
 
  • #42
Loren Booda said:
My buddies and I got arrested for possession of hashish and underage drinking in 1976. At the police station, we laughed at a policeman attempting to reassemble my bong. He then said with a wry smile "if they move, shoot them." The threat was all too real. After 35 years, I still remember the name of the arresting officer - Officer Snook(s).

He was just reminding you who was in charge.

It worked. You still remember.

Now if people could only learn their homework so easily.
 
  • #43
Cyrus said:
I don't see what the officers did wrong in the video, that guy was loony.
Immigration had been sending him back and forth for 8hours.
After they killed him they decided not to call medical help
They had little a little 'dress rehersal' of their story afterwards
 
  • #44
Cyrus said:
I don't see what the officers did wrong in the video, that guy was loony.
Are you a lawyer ?
 
  • #45
macarino said:
Are you a lawyer ?

Nope, I have self-respect.
 
  • #46
whether he was loony or not (context, context, context-- for example, was he fluent in English? my understanding is a translator was necessary and not provided... how would you be acting after 8 hours of being screwed with, in a foreign country where you don't speak the language, after a long flight... and the cops show up!), either way, it doesn't matter. this is why they are (supposedly) trained: not just to learn how to take down an individual, but to assess the situation and how much force is necessary when doing so.

they could've easily tackled him and cuffed him.

frustrated guy with stapler => minor threat => try not to electrocute the guy to death

maybe that's just me though.
 

Similar threads

News Bush Honest & Trustworthy Until How Many Lies?
  • · Replies 65 ·
3
Replies
65
Views
11K