Waterloo Mechatronics vs. U of T Eng Sci

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The discussion centers on comparing the undergraduate engineering programs at the University of Waterloo (Mechatronics) and the University of Toronto (Engineering Science), particularly in the context of pursuing graduate studies in the U.S. Participants explore the reputations, job prospects, and academic challenges associated with each program.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Waterloo is perceived as the best engineering school in Canada, particularly for hard sciences and engineering, while U of T's Engineering Science program is described as exclusive and challenging.
  • There is a suggestion that graduates from Waterloo may have better job prospects due to connections with top employers like Microsoft and Google.
  • One participant expresses concern that a lower GPA from the EngSci program could be a disadvantage when competing for jobs with graduates from Waterloo.
  • A participant questions the feasibility of achieving the same GPA in both programs, suggesting that a high GPA in EngSci would likely indicate an even higher GPA in Mechatronics.
  • It is proposed that the reputation of both universities is strong enough that it may not significantly impact admission chances to prestigious graduate schools like MIT.
  • Participants emphasize the importance of aligning one's interests with the specific program, noting that EngSci covers a broad range of subjects compared to the focused nature of Mechatronics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the advantages of each program, with no consensus on which university offers a definitive edge for graduate studies. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the impact of GPA and program reputation on future opportunities.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that individual experiences and perceptions may vary, and there are assumptions about GPA performance and job market dynamics that are not fully explored.

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I want to pursue graduate studies in the U.S after undergrad. What are the pros and cons of each university. I know that there have been many discussions over this topic but none of them give me a clear idea of which one is better. I heard that Waterloo has top employers hiring graduates like Microsoft, Google, IBM, RIM, and other giants. But that is what I just heard.
 
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In Canada Waterloo is known as the best engineering school (it's pretty much ONLY known for hard sciences/engineering), however, EngSci is considered a really exclusive (and insanely difficult) program.

From my understanding EngSci students and engineers tend to compete for the same jobs and the lower GPA from EngSci may be a disadvantage.

This is what I've heard as a fellow engineering student in Canada.
 
Thanks for the reply. I'm leaning more towards Waterloo, which university do you go to?

Let's say I want to go to MIT after undergrad and I get same gpa for both u of t eng sci and waterloo mechatronics, which would give me the better chance
 
McGill--transfer from Concordia.

Put simply, I doubt you can get the same GPA in both programs. If you achieve a high GPA in EngSci you would most likely be able to maintain a PERFECT GPA in Mechatronics.

In terms of admission to a high calibre school like MIT I doubt it would make much difference in terms of the school--both U of T and Waterloo are highly regarded. Keep in mind that EngSci is very non-specific--you learn a lot about many different subjects so if you know for a fact that mechatronics is what interests you then you should focus on it.
 

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