Wave interference and resolving resultants

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The discussion revolves around the interference of two sinusoidal waves that are identical except for their phase. The resultant wave is provided in the form of a cosine function, and participants are exploring how to derive the original waves' wavelength, phase difference, and amplitude from this resultant expression.

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  • Participants discuss the addition of sinusoidal waves and how to relate the resultant wave to the original waves. There are attempts to use trigonometric identities to express the sum of the waves and to derive parameters such as wavelength and amplitude.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to apply trigonometric identities to understand the relationship between the original waves and the resultant wave. There is a mix of approaches being explored, with some participants questioning the contributions to amplitude and others clarifying the use of phase differences.

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Participants are working under the constraints of deriving information from the given resultant wave equation without additional context or numerical values for the original waves. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the amplitude and phase contributions in the resultant wave.

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Me again !

I have the following question and this time I really have no idea!

2 sinusoidal waves, identical except for their phase, travel in the same direction along a stretched string and interfere to produce a resultant wave given by:

x(z,t) = 3Cos (20z-4t+0.82)

Where x is in mm, z in metres and t in seconds

a- What is the wavelength of the 2 original waves
b- What is the phase difference between them
c- What is their amplitude

At the present I'm stuck on 'a' and may/may not be able to do b and c once I know how to work out 'a'.

I can see how to add original waves, but how do I go about resolving the resultant wave? I guess it's similar to vector algebra, but mmmmm... really don't know where to begin on this one.

Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
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This should get you started:
[tex]\sin \alpha + \sin \beta = 2 \cos \left( \frac{\alpha - \beta}{2} \right) \sin \left( \frac{\alpha + \beta}{2} \right)[/tex]
 
You'll have to excuse me for being a bit clueless here, but how do I relate that to the resultant wave?

Sorry, it's late and my brain needs caffine!:zzz:
Cheers
 
Adding the two waves gives you the resultant wave.

Use the fact that the waves are identical, except for phase, to write equations for the two waves.
 
So far, I've got the following

y(z,t) = 3cos(20z-4t) + 3cos(20z-4t+0.82)

but I don't think this is right
 
The two waves, identical except for phase:
[tex] y(z,t) = A\cos(kz - \omega t + \phi_1) + A\cos(kz - \omega t + \phi_2)[/tex]The earlier equation for cosines:
[tex]\cos \alpha + \cos \beta = 2 \cos \left( \frac{\alpha - \beta}{2} \right) \cos \left( \frac{\alpha + \beta}{2} \right)[/tex]

Can you now see where we're going?
 
So, I'd get

[tex]\cos \alpha + \cos \beta = 2 \cos \left( \frac{\0 - \0.82}{2} \right) \cos \left( \frac{\0.82}{2} \right)[/tex]
Which leaves
[tex]\cos \alpha + \cos \beta = 2 \cos \left(-0.41\right) \cos \left(0.41\right)[/tex]
 
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I get:
[tex]y(z,t) = A\cos(kz - \omega t + \phi_1) + A\cos(kz - \omega t + \phi_2)[/tex]
[tex]y(z,t) = 2A \cos\left(\frac{\phi_1-\phi_2}{2}\right) \cos\left(\frac{2kz - 2\omega t + \phi_1 + \phi_2}{2}\right)[/tex][tex]y(z,t) = A' \cos \left( kz - \omega t + \frac{\phi_1 + \phi_2}{2} \right)[/tex] , where
[tex]A' = 2A \cos \left(\frac{\phi_1-\phi_2}{2}\right)[/tex]
Now this looks quite a bit like the equation given in the problem.
 
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I tried it like this (adding two waves together):

a*sin(kx-wt+PI/2) + a*sin(kx-wt+PHI+PI/2) ---> a*cos(kx-wt) +
a*cos(kx-wt+PHI).

adding these using the trig identities you get:
2a*cos(kx-wt+PHI/2)*cos(-PHI/2).

comparing this with the resultant wave, then:
k = 20
w = 4 and
PHI/2 = 0.82.

and using k = 2PI/Lambda and w=2P

wave 2a = 3 this would suggest that the amplitude is 3/2.
 
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Good :smile:.
The thing I'll have to disagree about is the amplitude. The latter cosine term, cos(-PHI/2) = cos(PHI/2), contributes into the amplitude (see A' in my previous post).
 
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