Wave packet conceptual question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of wave packets in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing the origin of the waves that constitute a wave packet. Participants explore the relationship between wave packets and classical particles, as well as the analogy with sound waves.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Exploratory, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the origin of the waves that make up a wave packet, seeking clarification.
  • Another participant suggests that wavefunctions, like classical particles, are assumed to exist without a clear origin, highlighting the difference in definiteness between classical and quantum particles.
  • A participant explains that a wavefunction can be represented as a sum of momentum eigenfunctions, similar to how sound can be composed of pure tones.
  • Further elaboration on the sound analogy indicates that a wave packet of sound can be produced by a single clap, which can be analyzed using Fourier analysis, though the physical origin of individual waves remains ambiguous.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the analogy between wave packets and sound waves, but the discussion does not resolve the question of the physical origin of the waves in a wave packet.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not address specific assumptions about wavefunctions or the implications of dispersion in wave propagation, leaving these aspects unresolved.

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Hello.

I am reading about the wave packet in my physics textbook, and I understood that it describes the probability of a particle having a given position and a momentum in a particular state.
However, I just cannot understand where those waves that consist the wave packet come from. I will be happy if anyone can provide an answer to this question.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Like the classical particle, the wavefunction that is a quantum particle comes from nowhere, and is simply assumed to exist. The difference between a classical and a quantum particle is that the former has definite position and momentum.

A momentum measurement corresponds to a momentum operator, which has eigenvalues and eigenfunctions. The wavefunction can be thought to be "made up" of momentum eigenfunctions, just as any sound thought to be "made up" of pure tones. But just as you could use also use spherical harmonics to represent sound, and you can use other basis functions to represent a wavefunction.
 
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The example of sound helped a lot! Thank you!
 
To carry the sound example further, an example of a wave packet of sound is a single pulse of sound which you can produce by clapping your hands once. It can be analyzed as a sum of pure tones (waves) by using Fourier analysis. This isn't merely a mathematical trick. Those pure tones are affected differently when they pass through a medium (dispersion), and this affects the way the pulse propagates. However, I don't think you can really say where each individual wave "comes from," physically, in terms of the clap that produces the pulse.
 

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