We should give free money to the homeless

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The discussion centers on the idea of providing free money to the homeless as a potential solution to poverty, supported by research suggesting that cash assistance can be beneficial rather than detrimental. A local charity's experiment involves giving homeless individuals a one-time payment of 3,000 pounds without conditions, sparking debate on the effectiveness and implications of such programs. Critics raise concerns about funding sources for these initiatives, emphasizing that government assistance often comes from taxpayer money and questioning the sustainability of such financial support. The conversation also touches on the complexities of poverty, mental health, and the need for tailored solutions rather than one-size-fits-all approaches. Ultimately, the thread highlights the ongoing debate about the best methods to address homelessness and poverty in society.
  • #101
houlahound said:
I didn't realize there was already this thread on the UBI.
Being newly retired, and getting a UBI, and knowing what I've become(LAZY!), I'm starting to see the right wing side of the thought process.
As far as I can tell, right wingers got their money either by being not poor in the first place, or gaming the system.
In any event, they understood long before I did, what it meant to be "self lazy".

One of them really needs to start a thread, on how they overcame that affliction.
 
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I am certain that most people would not become lazy if their basic needs were provided. I think the opposite would happen.

Most people I know on retirement pension work harder than ever in volunteer clubs/committees/lobby groups...

Of course there is a percentage of people that really are just lazy.

I only imagine all the useless physics experiments I would be doing if I did not have to spend so much time on basic survival.
 
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OmCheeto said:
As far as I can tell, right wingers got their money either by being not poor in the first place, or gaming the system.

Or perhaps they hear this kind of comment, dripping with loathing, and decide to oppose your politics? Clay County, KY, which often tops the list of poorest US counties, went 9:1 for the Republican candidate this year.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Or perhaps they hear this kind of comment, dripping with loathing, and decide to oppose your politics? Clay County, KY, which often tops the list of poorest US counties, went 9:1 for the Republican candidate this year.
I am not in the US or understand their politics but have seen places in the South that are like third world hell holes and the people support policies that help them the least ie opposition to healthcare when their health is poor, opposition to welfare when they depend in food stamps, opposition to peace when they are cannon fodder, opposition to overseas manufacturing but addicted to cheap consumer products, opposition to science...

What's up with that, the South is a hard logic to follow.
 
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  • #105
houlahound said:
I am certain that most people would not become lazy if their basic needs were provided.
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See: Children

aka, You are correct.
 
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houlahound said:
I am not in the US or understand their politics but have seen places in the South that are like third world hell holes and the people support policies that help them the least ie opposition to healthcare when their health is poor, opposition to welfare when they depend in food stamps, opposition to peace when they are cannon fodder, opposition to overseas manufacturing but addicted to cheap consumer products, opposition to science...

What's up with that, the South is a hard logic to follow.
I'm in the US, and don't understand it either.
hmmmm...

ps. "Loathing" is a funny word.
 
  • #107
I was in Gallatin (spelling) as a teenager for a while living with rich people on a horse stud farm - kind generous people but the poor areas I only can compare to SE Asia's poorest areas.

I could not believe such poverty existed in the US until I saw it.

The poor SE Asians were positive people with a zest for life, the poor white Southerners were violent and angry and were in a state of preparation for some vague apocalyptic war.

Just my personal experience, not generalising.
 
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