Were any 'breakthroughs' in particle physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the contributions and breakthroughs in particle physics attributed to the Soviet Union, exploring historical achievements and notable discoveries made by Soviet scientists and institutions.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that many breakthroughs in particle physics originated from the USSR, with claims that these discoveries were often independently made by Soviet scientists.
  • One participant mentions Cherenkov radiation as a significant contribution named after a Russian scientist.
  • A list of discoveries made at the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research (JINR) in Dubna is provided, including various elements and phenomena, indicating substantial contributions from Soviet research.
  • Another participant points out that some of the discoveries listed occurred after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, questioning the framing of the discussion.
  • There is a mention of a perception that major discoveries, such as quarks and antimatter, were predominantly made in Western labs, with Cherenkov radiation being a notable exception.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the extent and recognition of Soviet contributions to particle physics, with some asserting significant achievements while others challenge the relevance of these claims in the context of the Soviet Union's historical timeline.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific historical contexts and definitions of what constitutes a "breakthrough," which may not be universally agreed upon. The timeline of discoveries and their association with the Soviet Union versus post-Soviet entities remains a point of contention.

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made in the Soviet Union?
 
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In Soviet Russia, particles break through you.
 
I hate people that can't give examples, but I'm one of them. From what I remember from Kip Thorne's book pretty much all of the breakthroughs in particle physics came out of the USSR. the only problem was they were the only ones who knew it. They figured out everything we did independently.
 
Cherenkov radiation is named after Russian scientist.
 
The Russians made a lot of contributions to the field,

Some discoveries made at JINR, Dubna:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JINR

* 1959 – nonradiative transitions in mesoatoms
* 1960 – antisigma-minus hyperon
* 1963 – element 102
* 1972 – postradiative regeneration of cells
* 1973 – quark counting rule
* 1975 – phenomenon of slow neutron confinement
* 1988 – regularity of resonant formation of muonic molecules in deuterium
* 1999-2005 – elements 114, 116, 118, 115 and 113
* 2006 – chemical identification of element 112

Elements discovered at JINR: rutherfordium (1964), seaborgium (1974), bohrium (1976), ununquadium (Island of stability, 1999), ununhexium (2001), ununtrium (2004), ununpentium (2004), ununoctium (2006).
 
possibly interesting reading:
http://www.hssonline.org/teaching/teaching_graham7.html
 
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1999-2005 – elements 114, 116, 118, 115 and 113
* 2006 – chemical identification of element 112

Elements discovered at JINR: ununquadium (Island of stability, 1999), ununhexium (2001), ununtrium (2004), ununpentium (2004), ununoctium (2006).
Normally I wouldn't comment in a thread like this except to make fun of it. However, I will take the time to point out that these events did not take place in the Soviet Union which collapsed in 1991.
 
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However, I will take the time to point out that these events did not take place in the Soviet Union which collapsed in 1991.

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That is what we wanted you to think!
 
I was just wondering because when you think of things like 'where were quarks discovered' or likewise for antimatter, w and z bosons etc., it was always in a western lab. Cerenkov radiation is the obvious exception.
 

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