What about the Lebanese military?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the role and capabilities of the Lebanese military in the context of regional conflicts, particularly regarding Hezbollah and Israel. Participants explore the military's historical background, current state, and implications for Lebanon's stability and governance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the visibility and effectiveness of the Lebanese military in preventing conflict within Lebanon.
  • One viewpoint suggests that the Lebanese military might be strategically waiting to counter Hezbollah, potentially leading to a complex situation if Israel intervenes.
  • Concerns are raised about the military's lack of resources, training, and equipment, with references to external sources indicating their limitations.
  • Historical context is provided, noting Lebanon's recovery from civil war and Syrian occupation, which may affect military operations.
  • Some argue that engaging Hezbollah could lead to a renewed civil war, particularly given the sectarian composition of the Lebanese army.
  • There is a suggestion that the Lebanese army's involvement against Hezbollah could result in significant casualties and further destabilization.
  • Participants note that the Lebanese military would likely act defensively if faced with an Israeli invasion of major cities.
  • A later reply references a statement from a military general indicating that the Lebanese army would avoid conflict with other Lebanese factions under current circumstances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the capabilities and strategic decisions of the Lebanese military. There is no consensus on their role or effectiveness in the ongoing conflict.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the reliance on potentially biased or incomplete sources for information about the Lebanese military's capabilities and the complex historical and political context influencing their actions.

Gonzolo
Isn't it peculiar that we don't hear much about them? In principle, shouldn't they prevent war from happening in their country?
 
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Ever think they're laying in the weeds waiting to spring a trap on Hezbollah --- the Israelis drive 'em in --- the Lebanese bag 'em. Oughta get an Oscar for best acted double-cross in history if it's the case.
 
The only even vaguely reliable information I can find about the state of the Lebonese army comes from wiki(yeah I know)
According to this illustrious source, they are poorly armed and equiped, poorly trained, and small in number. If they could defend their country against Hezbollah or Israel I'm assuming they would, since they are doing nor have done either, it's unlikely there a major player in the region. They have no surface ot air missiles or anti aircraft artillery either apparently. And have requested aid from Egypt & Syria to help train their forces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Lebanon
 
Well a little look at the recent history of Lebanon backs up what you are say Schrödinger. They are just recovering from a civil war, and being occupied by Syria.
 
ironicly, lebbenon doesn't want to get invloved in this war. that would give israel reason (and justification in international eyes) to bomb the whole of lebenon and not just the southern bits that kartusha rockets can be put in range of israel. as mentioned above, the lebenon army wouldn't be able to do much anyway.

apparently, the lebonese army was made by different militias agreeing to join the national military. because of this, an effort by the lebenon army to pacify hezbollah and try to do what israel is doing now would in effect, be putting lebenon in a vary brutal civil war (assuming there wouldn't be a coup right off the bat)
 
devil-fire said:
apparently, the lebonese army was made by different militias agreeing to join the national military. because of this, an effort by the lebenon army to pacify hezbollah and try to do what israel is doing now would in effect, be putting lebenon in a vary brutal civil war (assuming there wouldn't be a coup right off the bat)
AFAIK the Lebanese army is 40% Shia. the Shia would fight with Hezbollah, not against them. Lebanon is wise to not engage it's army. If they attack Hezbollah it would probably precipitate another civil war, with the Shia being slaughtered with Israeli will help. If they attack Israel, the destruction will be ten fold what it is now. Their only option is to try and ride it out to hopefully pick up the pieces when Israel pulls out and is replaced by an international force.

This is the saddest part about the way Israel is conducting this war. They are destroying a fledgling democracy. The current Lebanese government is only about a year old. Doesn't look like it will ever reach maturity now. :frown: This is a terrible tragedy for the people of Lebanon. Israel is making good on it's promise to set them back 20 years.
 
Gonzolo said:
Isn't it peculiar that we don't hear much about them? In principle, shouldn't they prevent war from happening in their country?

The Lebanese Army is currently training with the Wu Tang Clan in the Shaolin Temple.
 
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I just found a very relevant article :

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1223159,00.html?cnn=yes
 
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Yep, this about sums it up Gonzolo.

"The Lebanese Army will never be given any orders to disarm any militia, especially under these circumstances when Hizballah is being attacked by Israel," said Gen. Ismail. "The Lebanese army is not going to fight other Lebanese. There would be civil war."
 
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The Lebanese Army will interfere if Israel's infantry tries to invade major Lebanese cities. There was a statement by the Lebanese Defense Minister to this effect, but I can't be bothered to look it up. Although the fact that the Army was involved in engaging Israeli commandos twice (one of them was in Tyre yesterday) should be evidence enough.
 

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