What Angle Does the Muon Emerge at in Pion Decay?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves the decay of a pion into a muon and a neutrino, specifically examining the angle at which the muon emerges when the neutrino is emitted at 90 degrees to the pion's original direction. The context is rooted in relativistic particle physics, utilizing conservation laws for energy and momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of four-momentum conservation equations and the relationships between the momenta and energies of the particles involved. Some express frustration with the complexity of the expressions derived, while others suggest simpler approaches or highlight overlooked aspects, such as the initial velocity of the pion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different formulations and expressing varying degrees of confidence in their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the initial velocity, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to simplify the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of dealing with multiple unknowns in the equations, particularly the energy of the muon and the implications of the pion's initial velocity. There is a recognition of the complexity introduced by relativistic effects and the need for careful consideration of conservation laws.

Flux = Rad
Messages
22
Reaction score
0
I've done a countless number of these problems before, so I was quite annoyed when I was unable to do this one. It's from Griffiths' Intro to Elementary Particles.

Homework Statement



A pion traveling at speed v decays into a muon and a neutrino,
\pi^- \rightarrow \mu^- + \bar{\nu}_\mu
If the neutrino emerges at 90 degrees to the original pion direction, at what angle does the muon come off?

Homework Equations



Relativistic formulae for energy and momentum, energy and momentum conservation.

The Attempt at a Solution



Note: in the following I've set c = 1. If that bothers anyone too much, I could do it again keeping the c's in, but it's rather tedious.

I've set it up so that the pion was traveling in the \hat{x} direction, and the neutrino goes off in the \hat{y} direction.

The four vectors for the particles are:
P_\pi = \left( \begin{array}{cc} E_\pi / c \\ p_\pi \\ 0 \\ 0 \end{array} \right) \qquad P_\nu = \left( \begin{array}{cc} p_\nu \\ 0 \\ p_\nu \\ 0 \end{array} \right) \qquad P_\mu = \left( \begin{array}{cc} E_\mu / c \\ p_x \\ p_y \\ 0 \end{array} \right)

4 momentum conservation states that

P_\pi = P_\nu + P_\mu

Dotting both sides of this equation with itself, and noting that
a) the square of a 4 momentum is the rest mass of the particle
b) the neutrino is effectively massless
I get:

p_y = \frac{2 E_\mu p_\nu - m_\pi ^2 + m_\mu ^2}{2 p_\nu}

If I rearrange my initial statement of energy/momentum conservation to

P_\nu = P_\pi - P_\mu

the result of squaring this is

p_x = \frac{2 E_\pi E_\mu - m_\pi ^2 m_\mu ^2}{2 p_\pi}

This allows me to obtain an expression for the required angle, namely

\tan \theta = \frac{p_y}{p_x} = \frac{p_\pi (2 E_\mu p_\nu - m_\pi ^2 + m_\mu ^2)}{p_\nu (2 E_\pi E_\mu - m_\pi ^2 - m_\mu ^2)}

In order to get rid of the p_\nu terms, I take my conservation master equation and rearrange it to the last possible arrangement, and square:

P_\mu = P_\pi - P_\nu \quad \Rightarrow \quad P_\nu = \frac{m_\pi ^2 - m_\mu ^2}{2 E_\pi}

Substituting this into my rather messy equation for \tan \theta, I end up with:

\tan \theta = 2 \frac{p_\pi (E_\mu - E_\pi)}{2 E_\pi E_\mu - m_\pi ^2 m_\mu ^2}

Clearly this isn't satisfactory since we don't know what E_\mu is. I tried using the energy-mass-momentum relation to remedy this but I only managed to get

\tan \theta = 2 \frac{p_\pi(E_\mu - E_\pi)}{p_\mu ^2 - p_\pi ^2}

which isn't of much help either, since we now have unknown p_\mu terms floating about.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Hello,

I try this way:
P_\pi = \left( \begin{array}{cc} E_\pi / c \\ p_\pi \\ 0 \\ 0 \end{array} \right) \qquad P_\nu = \left( \begin{array}{cc} p_\nu \\ 0 \\ p_\nu \\ 0 \end{array} \right) \qquad P_\mu = \left( \begin{array}{cc} E_\mu / c \\ p_x \\ p_y \\ 0 \end{array} \right)
Actually,conservation of momentum give p_\pi=p_x and p_\nu=p_y
Therefore,
\tan\theta=\frac{p_y}{p_x}=\frac{p_\nu}{p_\pi}
where
p_\pi=\gamma m_\pi v
and
p_\nu = \frac{m_\pi ^2 - m_\mu ^2}{2 E_\pi} (you have got this relation)
Simplify further
\tan\theta=\frac{p_y}{p_x}=\frac{p_\nu}{p_\pi}=\frac{m_\pi ^2 - m_\mu ^2}{2 E_\pi}\frac{1}{\gamma m_\pi v}=\frac{m_\pi ^2 - m_\mu ^2}{2 \gamma m_\pi}\frac{1}{\gamma m_\pi v}=\frac{1}{2\gamma^2 v}\left(\frac{m_\pi ^2 - m_\mu ^2}{m^2_\pi}\right)



Best regards
 
Last edited:
Without following all of the details (sorry, it's getting late), but you haven't used at all the fact that you were given the initial velocity of the pion is 'v'. This gives you a relation between E_pi and p_pi in terms of v. That's one less variable.
 
Last edited:
Thanks for the replies, I was making things way too complicated for myself. I'm not sure if the expression I got was correct but variation's method is far more elegant and uhm... logical. Hope that'll teach me to keep an eye on the bigger picture with simpler problems.

Thanks again.
 

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K