What Are All the Homomorphisms from Z to Z?

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The discussion revolves around identifying all homomorphisms from the group of integers under addition (Z) to itself. Participants explore the properties of these homomorphisms, including whether they are injective, surjective, or isomorphisms, while also considering the implications of defining such functions based on the action of the generator of the group.

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  • One participant notes that any linear function will satisfy the homomorphism condition, but later acknowledges that not all linear functions with integer coefficients will map to integers, raising questions about isomorphisms.
  • Another participant states that there are infinitely many homomorphisms from Z to Z, as defining a homomorphism only requires specifying the image of the generator (1).
  • Some participants discuss the relationship between homomorphisms and cyclic groups, suggesting that the number of homomorphisms corresponds to the integers.
  • A participant mentions that the homomorphisms between finite cyclic groups form a cyclic group of order equal to the greatest common divisor of their orders.
  • There is a suggestion that the determination of homomorphisms is analogous to linear maps in linear algebra, where the action on basis vectors defines the map.

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Participants generally agree that there are infinitely many homomorphisms from Z to Z, but there is no consensus on the specific properties of these homomorphisms, such as injectivity or surjectivity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the completeness of the characterization of these homomorphisms.

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Some participants express uncertainty about proving that all homomorphisms are determined by the image of the generator, and there are indications that the discussion may depend on definitions and assumptions not fully explored in the thread.

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I've started self-studying algebra. So I want to err on the side of getting guidance so I don't get off on the wrong track. This is problem 2.4.4 in Artin.

Describe all homomorphisms from Z+ to Z+ (all integers under addition). Determine if they are injective, surjective, or isomorphisms.

So I need ALL the functions f s.t. f(x+y) = f(x) + f(y) for all integers x,y.

Clearly any linear function f will do this, and these are all isomorphisms.
Also f(x) = 0 for all x satisfies the definition of the homomorphism. This is not injective, surjective, nor an isomorphism.

So far so good?

I don't know of any way to prove that there are no other such functions that will satisfy the definition of a homomorphism.

Any hints?

thanks
 
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Z is the infinite cyclic group generated by 1 with identity 0. to specify a homomorphism, one only needs to specify the action of the generator

for instance, f(1) = 2000 will define a homomorphism by induction. In fact, there should be infinitely many homomorphism.
 
Thanks. I'll look into that. I don't think Artin has presented that result yet.

Since been doing a lot of analysis lately, and ignored that these are integers here. Hence, my initial comment of all linear functions isn't true. Although all linear functions with integer co-efficients should do it.

But then the inverse may not map to integers everywhere. Hence these may not all be isomorphisms.

So now the question makes more sense. I'll dig further.
 
oh Obviously there are infinitely many homomorphisms on Z to Z

But could you suggest the number more precisely by using cardinal numbers?
 
sukyung said:
oh Obviously there are infinitely many homomorphisms on Z to Z

But could you suggest the number more precisely by using cardinal numbers?

As was stated above, a homomorphism from a cyclic group is defined by where it sends one generator. You can send 1 to any integer and get a homomorphism from Z to Z, and so there are as many such maps as there are integers.
 
Tinyboss said:
As was stated above, a homomorphism from a cyclic group is defined by where it sends one generator. You can send 1 to any integer and get a homomorphism from Z to Z, and so there are as many such maps as there are integers.

For example, H: Z_12 -> Z_5

and Z_12 is a cyclic group but it cannot create a homorphism to Z_5 by specifying H(1).

Then Can I understand it as "we can create a homomorphism by defining each H(1) when the homomorphism is an endomorphism on a cyclic group(like Z)"?
 
redrzewski said:
I've started self-studying algebra. So I want to err on the side of getting guidance so I don't get off on the wrong track. This is problem 2.4.4 in Artin.

Describe all homomorphisms from Z+ to Z+ (all integers under addition). Determine if they are injective, surjective, or isomorphisms.

So I need ALL the functions f s.t. f(x+y) = f(x) + f(y) for all integers x,y.

Clearly any linear function f will do this, and these are all isomorphisms.
Also f(x) = 0 for all x satisfies the definition of the homomorphism. This is not injective, surjective, nor an isomorphism.

So far so good?

I don't know of any way to prove that there are no other such functions that will satisfy the definition of a homomorphism.

Any hints?

thanks

Everything is determined by what happens to 1
 
sukyung said:
For example, H: Z_12 -> Z_5

and Z_12 is a cyclic group but it cannot create a homorphism to Z_5 by specifying H(1).
Sure we can, and in this case it's unique: H(1)=0, the trivial homomorphism.

Then Can I understand it as "we can create a homomorphism by defining each H(1) when the homomorphism is an endomorphism on a cyclic group(like Z)"?

The general result is that the homomorphisms between finite cyclic groups Z_m and Z_n themselves form a cyclic group of order gcd(m,n).
 
you should be able to prove that everything is determined by where 1 goes. If you cannot, you might try an easier book. you should also try to prove that very few of these maps are isomorphisms.
 
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It's analogous to what you might be used to from linear algebra: any linear map is uniquely determined by its action on basis vectors. (Z is of course a Z-module of rank 1, so it's exactly the same principle.)
 

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