What are Planck's units and how do they relate to fundamental forces?

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The discussion revolves around Planck's units and their relationship to fundamental forces. Participants are exploring the meaning of these units, how to express them in terms of SI units, and their application to human dimensions.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the significance of Planck units in the context of fundamental forces and whether setting them to unity simplifies calculations. Questions arise about how to express Planck dimensions in SI units and the interpretation of human dimensions in Planck terms.

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Some participants have provided interpretations of the tasks, suggesting that expressing Planck units in SI terms is necessary. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the questions, with various interpretations being discussed without a clear consensus.

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Participants note potential language barriers affecting comprehension, and there is uncertainty regarding the specific expectations of the homework tasks, particularly in relation to the dimensions of a human being in Planck units.

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Homework Statement



1. What is the meaning of Planck’s units? Hint: Compare the strength of the 4 fundamental forces.

2. Calculate the Planck’s dimensions as a function of the SI units.

3. What are the dimensions of the human being in terms of Planck dimensions?

Homework Equations



Plancks's units defined in terms of the speed of light (c), the quantum of action (h/2pi), and the Newtonian gravitational constant G

strength of electromagnetic force \alpha = e/(hc/2pi)

strength of gravitational force is G

The Attempt at a Solution



1. I suppose the meaning of the Planck units is that if they're set to unity while calculating a fundamental force (e.g. F=G*m*m/r^2), you wouldn't need a constant (such as G) to get the right number for force. However i can't figure out how I am supposed to compare fundamental force strengths to show that.

2. The constants describing the Planck units are already described in SI units. So i don't understand what I am asked to do then.

3. This question i don't understand at all...

Thanks a lot to whoever helps.
 
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faen said:

Homework Statement



1. What is the meaning of Planck’s units? Hint: Compare the strength of the 4 fundamental forces.

2. Calculate the Planck’s dimensions as a function of the SI units.

3. What are the dimensions of the human being in terms of Planck dimensions?


Homework Equations



Plancks's units defined in terms of the speed of light (c), the quantum of action (h/2pi), and the Newtonian gravitational constant G

strength of electromagnetic force \alpha = e/(hc/2pi)

strength of gravitational force is G

The Attempt at a Solution



1. I suppose the meaning of the Planck units is that if they're set to unity while calculating a fundamental force (e.g. F=G*m*m/r^2), you wouldn't need a constant (such as G) to get the right number for force. However i can't figure out how I am supposed to compare fundamental force strengths to show that.

2. The constants describing the Planck units are already described in SI units. So i don't understand what I am asked to do then.

3. This question i don't understand at all...

Thanks a lot to whoever helps.


These constants can be combined in a unique way to give something that has the dimensions of a time (try it!). This is called the Planck time or if you want, "one unit of Planck time". The corresponding value can be given in seconds if you use the usual SI values for h bar, c and G.
You can then find what one Planck time is equal to in seconds.

The same thing for "Planck mass", "Planck length" and, if you want, "Planck energy" (which is simply the Planck mass times c^2)



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So in order to write the Planck units as a function of SI units, do i have to write the Planck length in meters? Or should i just write all the SI units defining the Planck length without calculating how they cancel each other out?

In question 3, are they asking the average Planck length and mass of a human being, or in which dimensions a human being exist in? English isn't my native language :P
 
I want to make sure that what I wrote is clear.

There is a unique way to combine c, \hbar and G to get something that has the units of a length. This combination is of course independent of the units used for the three constants. This combination is defined to be one Planck unit of length.

So you will have

One Planck unit of length = expression in terms of c, \hbar and G

(Of course, this is quite arbitrary because one could always multiply by any dimensionless constant such as \pi, 1/3 etc. But assuming that the dimensionless constant i snot huge or tiny, it would not change by very much the scale involved so we assume that the dimensionless constant is simply one.)

Now, if you plug in the values of c, \hbar and G in SI units, you will obtain the value of the Planck length in meters. So you will have

One Planck unit of length length = x meters

Once you have that, you can estimate the average height of a person in meters and then give the average height in Planck units of length

faen said:
So in order to write the Planck units as a function of SI units, do i have to write the Planck length in meters? Or should i just write all the SI units defining the Planck length without calculating how they cancel each other out?

In question 3, are they asking the average Planck length and mass of a human being, or in which dimensions a human being exist in? English isn't my native language :P
 
Allrighty, got it. Thank you very much :-)

Just to be sure; to answer task 2 i have to just write down the Planck length in meters, Planck mass in kg etc? Hard for me to know what answer the teacher expects.
 
faen said:
Allrighty, got it. Thank you very much :-)

Just to be sure; to answer task 2 i have to just write down the Planck length in meters, Planck mass in kg etc? Hard for me to know what answer the teacher expects.

yes, that's the way I interpret the question. One Planck unit of time is how many seconds, one Planck unit of mass is how many kg, etc...

You are welcome. Glad I could help.
 

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