What Are Some Artistic Mathematical Symbols That Represent Failure?

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The discussion revolves around identifying artistic mathematical symbols or symbols from physics that can represent the concept of failure or flaws, particularly in the context of a comic book series titled "The Flaw." Participants explore various symbols, their meanings, and potential artistic applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests looking for common symbols used by engineers to mark flaws, speculating they might be simple like a check mark or "X."
  • Another participant mentions Japanese Kanji symbols for "flaw," highlighting the character 玷 as representing both a flaw in a gem and a flaw in character, while expressing concerns about cultural appropriation.
  • A different participant proposes the symbol "≠" (not equal to) as a representation of failure in solving equations.
  • Another suggestion is an upside-down capital "T," which symbolizes "unconditionally false" in logic.
  • One participant humorously warns about the potential for misinterpretation of Japanese symbols, referencing the experience of tourists.
  • Another participant mentions the symbol "¬" (negation) and suggests "∓" as possible representations of failure.
  • Links to Wikipedia pages are shared, providing additional symbols and notations related to proof by contradiction.
  • One participant proposes using the number zero as a symbol of failure.
  • A stylized "=> <=" and the mark "※" are also suggested as potential artistic symbols.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of opinions on what symbols might represent failure, with no consensus on a definitive symbol. Some suggestions are met with humor or skepticism, indicating a mix of agreement and differing perspectives on cultural implications and artistic choices.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express concerns about cultural appropriation and the accuracy of symbols chosen for artistic representation. There is also uncertainty regarding the effectiveness and appropriateness of various symbols in conveying the concept of failure.

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My friend is a brilliant artist creating a comic book series called "The Flaw" and wants to know if there are any "cool/artistic" mathematical symbols or symbols used in physics etc that represent failure or some way to convey a "Flaw".

Anyone have any ideas?
 
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None that I know of, though I am no mathematician. There may be some common symbol that engineers use to mark a flaw on a design though I imagine it is probably simple and to the point like a check mark or "X".

If your friend has not already looked them up he may be interested in these.
http://tangorin.com/kanji/flaw
They are Japanese Kanji symbols for "flaw" in various contexts. I think that the context of a flaw such as a flaw in a gem may be rather apropos for a superhero. This character, (not sure if it will show in your browser), would seem to be an interesting one being both "flaw in gem" and "flaw in character". It would be a bit cheesy for a character who is not Japanese though, quite a reminder of those people who go off and get tattoos of japanese characters not knowing what they mean just because they think they are cool.
 
TheStatutoryApe said:
It would be a bit cheesy for a character who is not Japanese though, quite a reminder of those people who go off and get tattoos of japanese characters not knowing what they mean just because they think they are cool.

Oh yes, oh yes. Watch out or they'll put a tattoo saying "gaijin" (foreigner) on you. I've seen it happen.

I guess you could look at something like... =/= for not equal to. That could be considered a "failure" in solving an equation.
 
An upside down capital "T" is a logic symbol meaning "unconditionally false."
 
It would be a bit cheesy for a character who is not Japanese though, quite a reminder of those people who go off and get tattoos of japanese characters not knowing what they mean just because they think they are cool.
I have a bunch of pet peeves and this one is near the top of the list.
They pick one out of a book which stands for something; usually one word, which they could have just put in English. If they wanted someone to be able to read it, that's what they would have done. Instead, they have to assume the book was accurate and instead of people being able to read it, they have to explain it to every person who wants to know (which probably isn't many.) So it really doesn't matter what it says, it just comes down to "it looks cool".
If I see something that looks cool, I say "hey, that looks cool". Apparently if they see something that looks cool, they say "hey, I want to deface my body with that image for the rest of my life".
Actually, I think I may hate tribal tattoos more. I don't know, they're both god awful.
Oh yes, oh yes. Watch out or they'll put a tattoo saying "gaijin" (foreigner) on you. I've seen it happen.
Wouldn't they recognize that it's not the symbol they chose?
But regardless, like I explained above, it really doesn't even matter. No one they ever meet will be able to read it, and it may even look "cooler" than the stupid one they chose to begin with.
 
leroyjenkens said:
Wouldn't they recognize that it's not the symbol they chose?
It's 2 kanji, even. But trust me, unless you're trained to them, you will forget kanji VERY, VERY quickly, I know this from many, many attempts of looking them up in my dictionary. Add a few beers to that and you've got a tricked dumb tourist.
 
Not A = ~A
 
Can't you just use zero?
 

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