What Are Sums of Integer Powers Called in Number Theory?

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The discussion revolves around the nomenclature and properties of sums of integer powers in number theory. Participants explore the terminology for sums of M terms, each term being an integer raised to the power N, where N can vary in relation to M. The conversation includes inquiries about relevant literature and personal findings in experimental number theory.

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  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks appropriate keywords for sums of M terms raised to the power N and expresses uncertainty about rediscovering existing concepts.
  • Another participant requests specific examples of the results to better understand the context of the inquiry.
  • A participant mentions that finite sums of fixed powers have been studied extensively and references a book that includes explicit results for N up to 7, noting that the general result is a polynomial in M of degree N+1.
  • There is a discussion about the term "geometric series" in relation to sums of powers, with some participants clarifying that they believe the sums in question refer to sums like \(\sum_{k=1}^M k^N\).
  • Another participant suggests calling the sums a "finite power series of integers" and expresses interest in exploring specific properties and patterns in these sums.
  • One participant shares their experience with computational testing of their hypotheses and describes challenges faced when N reaches 9, including issues with variable types in their programming.
  • A reference to Bernoulli numbers in relation to the general formula for these sums is provided, along with a suggestion to find the referenced book at a university library.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the topic, and while some agree on certain terminology, there is no consensus on the specific nomenclature or the implications of the findings discussed. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple perspectives on the subject.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their mathematical training and the potential for rediscovery of existing concepts. There are also unresolved technical challenges related to computational methods and variable types in programming.

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G'day, geniuses!

I've been doing some experimental number theory and have found some interesting results, but I don't know how to find out if I'm simply rediscovering old ground. I need to find appropriate keywords / nomenclature for what I'm treating.

I am investigating sums of M terms, each term being an integer raised to the power N (N can be <M, =M, >M). Can anyone tell me what such an animal called, and where to look for the important findings?

Thanks in advance.
 
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fukon said:
G'day, geniuses!

I've been doing some experimental number theory and have found some interesting results, but I don't know how to find out if I'm simply rediscovering old ground. I need to find appropriate keywords / nomenclature for what I'm treating.

I am investigating sums of M terms, each term being an integer raised to the power N (N can be <M, =M, >M). Can anyone tell me what such an animal called, and where to look for the important findings?

Thanks in advance.

What are the some of the results? This doesn't look familiar to me; at least nothing that I have seen. But that might be because I don't know in which context you are investigating them. Post some specific examples; I'll look at them, but I don't profess to be any sort of number theorist; sounds interesting, though.
 
Finite sums of fixed powers have been studied extensively. There is a classic book "Table of Integrals, Series, and Products" by Gradshteyn and Ryznik which includes these sums, with explicit results for N up to 7. The general result is always a polynomial in M of degree N+1.
 
[tex] \sum_{N=1}^M x^N[/tex]
is called a "geometric series" is that what you mean?
 
I don't know for sure, but I assume (and I based my post on this assumption) that he has done something interesting with these sums. I'm thinking he has some specific results.
 
g_edgar said:
[tex] \sum_{N=1}^M x^N[/tex]
is called a "geometric series" is that what you mean?

I think he means:

[tex] \sum_{k=1}^M k^N[/tex]
 
Mathman's formulation is correct. I'd call it a finite power series of integers; does that sound right?

Anyway, I'm looking for specific properties and patterns in sums that exhibit these. And, yes, Robert1986: I have found some interesting results. I'd love to share them with you, but I want to make a bit more headway on my own, first.

I'm thinking about exploring a theoretical explanation for my findings, but I want to do a bit (well, probably more than a bit) of research before I risk making a fool of myself. I have found some useful book excerpts on Google Scholar, but I would prefer to get some whole books. If anybody would care to recommend a good number theory reference that covers this kind of thing I would be most grateful.

Nb. My mathematics training only goes as far as the requirements of a Canadian Physics degree (i.e. 3rd-year calculus, 2nd-year linear algebra), so I'm ignorant of much of the theory and jargon at level that I'm getting into.

Thanks, all!
 
The reference I gave (Gradshteyn and Ryznik) does have a general formula in terms of Bernoulli numbers as well as source references.
 
Thanks again, Mathman. I'll see if I can find it at the nearest university library.

BTW: I've been testing my hypothesis by running tests in a computer program (I'm calling this 'experimental number theory' until I'm advised of more appropriate jargon). I devised an algorithm that uses what I call 'virtual looping' to eliminate the need to keep increasing the nesting level of the loops every time I want to increment the number of terms in my series.

Nb. I'm not actually looking at the sum of powers from 0 to M, but rather the sum of M terms arbitrary chosen from the sequence 0..L, where L is bounded by computational constraints. I was getting away with L = 100 until I tried N (the exponent) = 9. Unfortunately, once N reached 9, my Delphi program went wonky; the int64 variable type was overwhelmed, and artificially negative numbers started turning up in the output. I'll have to do something tricky if I want to go further computationally. Rather than write my own code to handle, say, int128 numbers, is there an API out there I could use? (P.S. I realize this should be a new thread.)
 

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