What are the Basics of Factoring and Understanding Proofs?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the basics of factoring in the context of mathematical proofs. Participants are exploring the meanings of various variables used in proofs and the implications of factoring in different cases.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the roles of arbitrary variables in proofs related to factoring. There is a discussion about proving that if a factor divides a number, it also divides its multiples. Some participants question the clarity of the definitions and the reasoning behind certain statements in the context of factoring.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and seeking clarification on the definitions and implications of the variables involved. Some have raised questions about specific statements in the textbook, indicating a lack of consensus on certain points but a willingness to explore the reasoning behind them.

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There are constraints regarding the values of the variables, specifically that 'a' and 'b' must be non-zero whole numbers. Additionally, participants are grappling with the implications of the highest common factor (HCF) in relation to the sum of the numerator and denominator in a given example.

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The proof has to do with factoring... What do all the letters mean?
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F is an arbitrary factor.
A is an arbitrary number.
B is an arbitrary number, distinct from A and F.
a and b are arbitrary numbers, used to make it easier to understand in which case for they are being used.
n and m are arbitrary numbers.

Take the first case: Given F divides A (that is, if you divide a number A by F, the result is a natural number), then prove that it divides mA (that is, prove that F divides any multiple of A).
They then use a general case that A=aF...A is a multiple of F (since F divides A, it must be a factor and thus A a multiple) to show from there.

Does that make the second case clearer?
 
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Homework Statement



The proof has to do with factoring... What do all the letters mean?
I added an attachment.

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The Attempt at a Solution


The variables can be anything: ie they can have any value. The only restriction is that the variables 'a' and 'b' have to be non zero whole numbers. Besides that the variables can be any whole number you like.
 
Here is something else that I just came across...
the HCF of the numerator and denominator must be a factor of their sum (Thats odd isn't it? Is there some proof to this?)

The example:( 3x^3 - 13x^2 +23x -21) / 15x^3 - 38x^2 -2x +21)
Sum of num and den. = 18x^3 - 51x^2 +21x = 3x(3x-7)(2x-1)

This is where I get confused... The book says " if there is a common divisor is is clearly 3x - 7." My problem is, the book makes it sound like it is the obvious choice... How would you know that 3x-7 is the HCF without dividing 3x-7 then 3x then 2x-1 sepperatly into the denominator and numerator?
 
Shot in the dark:

Maybe because the coefficient of the highest degree term in each polynomial is not divisible by 2 (precluding 2x-1) and because each polynomial has a term of degree 0 so so much for 3x?
 
Does this "theorem" have a name? I've never hurd of this before? Its interesting.
 

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