What Are the Best Paths for High Energy Quantum Physics at UCSD?

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The discussion revolves around the best academic paths for pursuing high energy quantum physics at UCSD, particularly for a community college student planning to transfer. Participants explore various majors, specializations, and career considerations within the context of theoretical and computational physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a strong interest in theoretical high energy quantum physics but feels uncertain about the available specializations at UCSD.
  • Another participant suggests that the distinction between mathematics and physics is becoming less significant, indicating that pursuing either could be beneficial.
  • There is a consideration of majoring in computational physics for job security, with the idea of transitioning to theoretical physics in graduate school being discussed.
  • Concerns are raised about the competitive nature of graduate programs and the uncertainty of securing post-doctoral positions.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of having a rough plan for post-graduation, mentioning applied mathematics and biophysics as potential career paths.
  • A later reply questions whether majoring in computational physics is a better choice than a mathematically based physics program focused on theory.
  • Seeking mentorship at UCSD is recommended as a way to navigate academic and career opportunities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of planning and seeking mentorship, but there are multiple competing views regarding the best major and specialization to pursue, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the competition level at UCSD and the implications of choosing between computational physics and a mathematically focused physics program. There are also unresolved questions about the job market for graduates in these fields.

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I am currently attending a community college in San Diego working through the lower-division physics and mathematics courses. I have a transfer contract with UCSD, which means after I have attained 64-credits, I will transfer into their university. I am working independently on my physics and maths using several different texts and constructing binders filled with detailed notes, related to specific courses. I am working really hard so that I can hopefully be considered a top math and physics student once I transfer (although, I have no idea what the competition is like once I transfer -- it's extremely poor at the cc level).

I have looked through UCSD's physics major but I am still not sure what I should be working towards. I have an interest in theoretical high energy quantum physics (although my knowledge of it is completely basic and vague) but I have a passion and desire for mathematically heavy theoretical physics. I can't seem to find a 'specialization' that describes the style of physics that I want to do so if anyone is willing to take a few minutes and look through this course outline and possibly give me some advice, that would be tight.

I had considered possibly majoring in computational physics to ensure employment security if I can't find a solid post-doc position (assuming I am retained through graduate school after undergrad) and then doing theoretical high energy in graduate school.

Here is the link to the course outline:

http://www.ucsd.edu/catalog/pdffiles/Physics.pdf

Any other advice regarding my questions or corrections about any misunderstands that I may have, would also be appreciated.

Peace homies!

-BonG RiPPP-
 
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Hi, complexPHILOSOPHY (bonG RiPPP?)

complexPHILOSOPHY said:
I am currently attending a community college in San Diego working through the lower-division physics and mathematics courses. I have a transfer contract with UCSD, which means after I have attained 64-credits, I will transfer into their university. I am working independently on my physics and maths using several different texts and constructing binders filled with detailed notes, related to specific courses. I am working really hard so that I can hopefully be considered a top math and physics student once I transfer (although, I have no idea what the competition is like once I transfer -- it's extremely poor at the cc level).

Well, you're lucky: UCSD has one of the leading math departments in the U.S., but I'd guess that few students exhibit as much discipline as you have done, so you'll probably really hit your stride once you start attending higher math courses at UCSD.

complexPHILOSOPHY said:
I can't seem to find a 'specialization' that describes the style of physics that I want to do so if anyone is willing to take a few minutes and look through this course outline and possibly give me some advice, that would be tight.

These days mathematicians do theoretical physics and vice versa, so it might help to recognize that to some extent it might not matter whether you wind up aiming at a graduate program in math or physics. Studying mathematics of course allows you to more easily broaden your horizons should you wind up getting interested in say economics or biology.

complexPHILOSOPHY said:
I had considered possibly majoring in computational physics to ensure employment security if I can't find a solid post-doc position (assuming I am retained through graduate school after undergrad) and then doing theoretical high energy in graduate school.

Something didn't quite make sense there, but in any case you are probably getting a bit ahead of yourself. Still, having a rough plan of what you might do after graduating (we hope!) with an undergraduate degree in math/physics is not a bad idea, and something related to applied mathematics or applicable physics (biophysics seems to be getting hot--- see "protein folding") is probably a good career move. But I'd warn you that nothing can guarantee success, so you should expect to take it day by day.
 
I would like to second Chris's comments. Based on the tone of your OP, you have the intelligence, presence and motivation to do well at a 4-year college. Keep it up!
 
Something didn't quite make sense there, but in any case you are probably getting a bit ahead of yourself. Still, having a rough plan of what you might do after graduating (we hope!) with an undergraduate degree in math/physics is not a bad idea, and something related to applied mathematics or applicable physics (biophysics seems to be getting hot--- see "protein folding") is probably a good career move. But I'd warn you that nothing can guarantee success, so you should expect to take it day by day.

What I was trying express was a question concerning the possibility of majoring in computational physics and mathematics and then continuing to graduate school for theoretical (mathematically heavy) physics. If this is a possibility, would this be a better selection then doing a mathematically based physics program (assuming UCSD has one) engineered more for theory or would the former benefit me more?

The reason that I had considered computational physics was incase I completed my PhD and was unable to receive a job afterwards, I would hopefully atleast be regarded as a resource in the industry for my modeling abilities.

What do you think?
 
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What do you think?

I think that once you get to UCSD you should seek out a mentor and get advice from someone who is familiar with opportunities at that university.
 

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