UCB vs UCSD: Grad School & High Energy Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison between the University of California, Berkeley (UCB) and the University of California, San Diego (UCSD) for graduate studies in high energy physics. Participants explore factors influencing research opportunities, program strengths, and personal experiences related to these institutions.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the difficulty of getting research opportunities at UCB compared to UCSD, especially given a delayed start at UCB.
  • Another participant, who attended UCB, argues that it is possible to engage in particle physics research there, citing the proximity of Berkeley Lab and its resources as advantages.
  • Some participants suggest that UCB may have a stronger focus on particle physics due to its associated national laboratory, which has historical significance in high energy physics research.
  • One participant advises against overthinking the decision and encourages choosing Berkeley, suggesting that concerns about research opportunities may be exaggerated.
  • Another participant highlights the ongoing research projects at Berkeley Lab, including work on ATLAS and DUNE, as evidence of the opportunities available for students interested in particle physics.
  • There is a suggestion to research the size of high energy physics groups at both institutions for more informed decision-making.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relative strengths of UCB and UCSD for high energy physics research. While some advocate for UCB based on personal experiences and institutional resources, others raise concerns about accessibility to research opportunities at both schools. No consensus is reached on which institution is definitively better.

Contextual Notes

Participants' claims are based on personal experiences and perceptions, which may not encompass the full scope of research opportunities available at both institutions. There is also a reliance on anecdotal evidence regarding the strength of high energy physics programs.

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Im debating between Berkeley and UCSD and I am not sure what to do, I plan to go to grad school, and I am worried that it might be difficult to get a lot of research done at UCB whereas I've heard its easier to get into research at UCSD. Furthermore I'd start a semester late at UCB because I was originally waitlisted (physics major). I have a particular interest in high energy physics, and relativity although I am not quite sure what to do after college, in any case, which is better for getting into graduate school, will it make a difference?
 
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I went to UCB for undergrad and I found my way into particle physics research as an undergrad with a nice group at Berkeley Lab. So it is definitely possible. I think if you know you want to do particle physics research, UCB is a better choice than UCSD. Why? UCB has a large national laboratory associated with it literally just up the hill. There used to be accelerators there. I don't know much about research at UCSD in particle physics, but I assume there is more particle physics at UCB.

Don't get me wrong, both are great schools.
 
Mate, this is one of the situations where overthinking is a bad idea. Just stop worrying and go to Berkeley. Spend your semester off on traveling somewhere with friends, or earning some money and chilling. Your concern are truly exaggerated.
 
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You could google (or ask the instiutions themselves) to find the size of the HEP groups.
 
F=qE said:
I went to UCB for undergrad and I found my way into particle physics research as an undergrad with a nice group at Berkeley Lab. So it is definitely possible. I think if you know you want to do particle physics research, UCB is a better choice than UCSD. Why? UCB has a large national laboratory associated with it literally just up the hill. There used to be accelerators there. I don't know much about research at UCSD in particle physics, but I assume there is more particle physics at UCB.

Don't get me wrong, both are great schools.

Berkeley Lab still has accelerators. The Advanced Light Source is a 2nd generation synchrotron and there is a vibrant research grounp in free electron lasers and wakefield accelerators. Besides, they do a lot of work on ATLAS. They are also working on DUNE, LZ, and a few other high profile projects.

There are so many opportunities for particle physics students at Berkeley Lab that they import students from all over the world. I'd agree with Wminus and just go to Berkeley.
 

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