What Are the Best Trigger Mechanisms for Rubber Band Powered Vehicles?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the design of trigger mechanisms for rubber band powered vehicles, focusing on methods to release stored energy effectively. Participants explore various mechanical approaches and considerations for ensuring a hands-free operation triggered by a robotic arm.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a pin-style release mechanism that could be pulled out with a string, questioning whether the mechanism needs to re-engage after use.
  • Another participant raises the importance of understanding how the rubber band is utilized in the vehicle's design, implying that the release mechanism may vary based on its application.
  • A participant expresses concern about the tension in the rubber band affecting the force required to release the pin, emphasizing the need for a low-effort trigger engagement.
  • One suggestion involves using a sear mechanism similar to those found in firearms, which could provide a mechanical advantage to overcome friction when releasing the pin.
  • Another idea proposes using a paper clip to jam the wheel, which would be lifted by a lever when the canister drops, likening it to a bicycle brake release mechanism.
  • Several participants share their experiences related to an engineering design project, indicating a shared context among students facing similar challenges.
  • Some participants express frustration with their engineering program and the associated assignments, while also seeking different types of trigger mechanisms for their homework.
  • One participant mentions finding information on trebuchet firing mechanisms and firearm triggers as potentially useful for their project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best trigger mechanisms, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on a single approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of various mechanisms, particularly regarding friction and the force required for activation. The discussion also reflects a dependency on specific design requirements and the context of the engineering project.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and hobbyists interested in mechanical design, particularly those working on projects involving rubber band propulsion or similar engineering challenges.

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I have a project that I'm working on involving a rubber band powered vehicle. I have a pretty well developed design involving several methods of propulsion but my main concern is a trigger mechanism in which to release this source of power from the rubber bands.

Im not sure whether to go along the lines similar to a mouse trap or a different route.

The trigger has to be triggered by a small canister that is dropped from a programmed robotic arm and engage the trigger mechanism, so virtually the whole process has to be hands free.

Any help or different perspectives on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Welcome to PF, Dodger.
Is this a one-shot release mechanism, or do you have to have it re-engage? If the former, you can just stick a pin (grenade-style) through a hole in the axle and pull it out with a piece of string.
 
The best style release mechanism could also change for how you are using the rubber band.
In essence how are you using the rubber band specifically?
 
The rubber band specifically is connected to an axle which (using gear ratios) is gearing the rear wheel axle. So I just need a some mechanism that would hold the energy in the rubber band till the canister is dropped onto the car which will engage the tirgger mechanism.

The pin-style seems simple but I am concerned about the tension caused by the rubber band and how much force its going to take to release the pin. The canister is fairly light object so the trigger needs to be engaged with as little effort as possible. Thanks for the help.
 
I hadn't considered there being a 'friction-lock' effect, but you're quite right that it could be a problem. Another approach would be to have the pin (or screw, or blob of JB Weld) on the axle, with a sear mechanism like in a gun holding it. You can make the lever arm of the sear as long as you need to for extra oomph in overcoming the friction. Slight spring pressure in the released position should prevent it from re-engaging by accident.
 
You could put a paper clip on the back wheel, It would jam the wheel into a stop position, when the canister drops, it hits a lever that lifts the paper clip up releasing the wheel. I wish i could draw a diagram. It would work similar to a caliper brake on a bicycle except instead of releasing the brake you're removing it altogether. If the paper clip doesn't have enough friction try putting some cloth tape or something else around the tips maybe some rubber, The other option is those black binder clips but they might have just a little to much grip.
 
this wouldn't happen be for the UF EFTP engineering design project, would it?
 
Roasted!
-stepup Xiv
 
hahaha, so how many of us eftp-ers and stepup-ers are reading this thread?
 
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to tell the truth i was just looking for trigger mechanisms for that effing worksheet that's due tomorrow and i came onto this.. and i thought it was hilarious the guy called the things that are setting off the trigger 'capsules'.

but so, in light of that, anyone want to name some trigger mechanisms?
 
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lmfao, I am in eFTP, too, and I came across this page while goggling "trigger mechanisms" without the quotes. I am starting to seriously hate this program... the calc and the chem are fine, but this worksheet and the success class are pissing me off.
 
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I came across this, I'm in eFTP also lolz. The question says find and explain the function of three trigger mechanisms, so this would mean that we need to search different kinds of mechanisms. I just searched "types of trigger mechanisms" minus the quotes, and I haven't found anything yet, but it seems promising.

Edit: I know it's kind of late but I was able to find things on trebuchet firing mechanisms that seemed useful, and searching triggers (firearms) on wikipedia, and then searching the U.S. Patent office in conjunction to have a decent citation as well as an explanation. Hope this is useful.
 
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hailfire360 said:
I came across this, I'm in eFTP also lolz. The question says find and explain the function of three trigger mechanisms, so this would mean that we need to search different kinds of mechanisms. I just searched "types of trigger mechanisms" minus the quotes, and I haven't found anything yet, but it seems promising.

Edit: I know it's kind of late but I was able to find things on trebuchet firing mechanisms that seemed useful, and searching triggers (firearms) on wikipedia, and then searching the U.S. Patent office in conjunction to have a decent citation as well as an explanation. Hope this is useful.
rofl, so you are in the 2009 eFTP program? Looks like every new generation of engineers taking eFTP is destined to discover this page.

Hang in there! I know the program is rough, but it's survivable!
 

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