What Are the Commutators of Vector Operators?

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The discussion focuses on the commutators of vector operators, specifically the expression [A·B, C]. A key identity derived is [AB, C] = A[B, C] + [A, C]B, which simplifies the calculation of commutators involving products of operators. There is a caution regarding the notation used for vector multiplication, emphasizing the need for clarity in defining operations between vector operators. Participants express uncertainty about the rigor of the derivation due to potential misinterpretations of vector products. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of working with vector operators and the importance of precise notation in mathematical expressions.
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I've been trying to work out some expressions involving commutators of vector operators, and I am hoping some of y'all might know some identities that might make my job a little easier.

Specifically, what is \left[\mathbf{\hat A}\cdot\mathbf{\hat B}, \mathbf{\hat C}\right]? Are there any useful identities to express this in terms of simpler commutators?

Any help is appreciated.
 
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Are you sure you mean a "vector operator", typically we talk about matrix operators when discussing the commutator relationships (or group elements in a more general setting).
Vector operator: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_operator

However, your question is straightforward,
[S,T] = ST - TS (by definition)

Start with [AB,C] = ABC - CAB (+ ACB - ACB )
= ABC - ACB + ACB - CAB
= A(BC - CB) + (AC - CA)B
= A[B,C] + [A,C]B

Therefore we conclude [AB,C] = A[B,C] + [A,C]B
to be an identity.
Does that answer your question... you could have looked anywhere on the internet to get this... so I'm guessing this isn't what you want.
 
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brydustin said:
[S,T] = ST - TS (by definition)

Start with [AB,C] = ABC - CAB (+ ACB - ACB )
= ABC - ACB + ACB - CAB
= A(BC - CB) + (AC - CA)B
= A[B,C] + [A,C]B

Therefore we conclude [AB,C] = A[B,C] + [A,C]B

It seems to me that you're being pretty cavalier about vector multiplication, what with the way you're just putting vectors in a row next to each other without any dots or parentheses. For instance, what do you mean when you write “ABC”, when A, B and C are vector operators?

I would think that you should define [{\bf{\hat S}},{\bf{\hat T}}] = {\bf{\hat S}} \cdot {\bf{\hat T}} - {\bf{\hat T}} \cdot {\bf{\hat S}}, and therefore start your derivation with
[{\bf{\hat A}} \cdot {\bf{\hat B}},{\bf{\hat C}}] = ({\bf{\hat A}} \cdot {\bf{\hat B}}){\bf{\hat C}} - {\bf{\hat C}}({\bf{\hat A}} \cdot {\bf{\hat B}}).
But from there, I'm not sure how you can safely proceed, if you're being rigorous with your dots and parens. For instance — and correct me if I'm wrong on this — but I don't think ({\bf{\hat A}} \cdot {\bf{\hat C}}){\bf{\hat B}} is equal to {\bf{\hat A}}({\bf{\hat C}} \cdot {\bf{\hat B}}), so your next step seems iffy.
 
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Yeah, sorry I don't know. I thought you were intending for matrix operators. Good luck.
 

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