What are the conjugacy classes of subgroups of Z X Z?

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The discussion revolves around the conjugacy classes of subgroups of the group Z x Z, particularly focusing on identifying normal subgroups and their properties. Participants explore the implications of these subgroups in relation to covering spaces of the torus, which has a fundamental group isomorphic to Z x Z.

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  • One participant outlines their understanding of the normal subgroups of Z x Z, suggesting that they include 0, Z x Z, Z x aZ for each positive integer a, and others, questioning the correctness of this logic.
  • Another participant confirms that if A and B are subgroups of G and G', respectively, then their product AB is a subgroup of GG', and this holds for normal subgroups as well.
  • A different participant notes that Z x Z is abelian, implying that all its subgroups are normal and that the conjugacy classes are trivial, while also pointing out that some subgroups do not fit the form H x K.
  • One participant connects the discussion to covering spaces of the torus, stating that the isomorphisms of covering spaces correspond to the conjugacy classes of subgroups of the fundamental group.
  • Another participant discusses the relationship between covering spaces and products, questioning if the covering spaces can be distinctly categorized into three types based on their homeomorphism to S1 x S1, S1 x R, and R x R.
  • A later reply suggests that for each n, there is a cover associated with nZ, indicating a potential method to explore all covers over the torus.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the subgroups of Z x Z and their conjugacy classes. While some agree on the triviality of conjugacy classes in abelian groups, others challenge the completeness of subgroup forms and their classifications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the distinct categorization of covering spaces and their corresponding conjugacy classes.

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There are limitations in the assumptions made about the forms of subgroups and their relationships to covering spaces, as well as the correspondence between isomorphism groups and conjugacy classes, which are not fully explored or settled in the discussion.

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EDIT:( Sorry I meant for the title of this to say conjugacy classes of subgroups of Z X Z) I have a question.I am trying to figure out, what are all of the normal subgroups of Z X Z? Well, I know that Z has the following subgroups: the trivial group {0}, itself Z, and then aZ, one for each a in Z. (the group of all multiples of an integer a).

Well, this makes me assume that Z X Z has the following subgroups:

0, Z X Z, Z X aZ (one for each positive integer a), bZ X Z (one for each positive integer b) and cZ X dZ (one for each set of positive integers c,d)First off, I was wondering is this logic correct? Is there a relevant theorem which says that if you have a cross of two groups, that the subgroups of the new cross product is the cross of its subgroups?Also, am I right in assuming that all of the groups of the form Z X aZ, cZ X dZ and bZ X Z are in the same conjugacy class?
 
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If you're using the direct product, then ,yes, if A is a subgroup of G and B is a subgroup of G' , then the
product AB is a subgroup of GG'. Same is true for normal subgroups,and their product is normal on the direct product GG'. Also, AFAIK, for n,m positive,nZ iso.mZ iff n=m.
 
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I assume your group is ##\mathbb{Z} \times \mathbb{Z}##, the direct product of the additive group of integers with itself, with the usual operation of componentwise addition: ##(a,b) + (c,d) = (a+b,c+d)##.

If that is the case, your question doesn't make much sense to me. Of course ##\mathbb{Z} \times \mathbb{Z}## is abelian, so all of its subgroups are normal, and the conjugacy classes are all trivial.

Also, there are subgroups of ##\mathbb{Z} \times \mathbb{Z}## which are not of the form ##H \times K## where ##H,K## are subgroups of ##\mathbb{Z}##. For example, the cyclic subgroup generated by the element ##(1,1)## is not of that form.
 
Hey guys, thanks for the responses. The reason I am confused is because, the torus T^2 has fundamental group isomorphic to Z X Z. Now, it's a result that if a space X' covers the torus, then X' is homeomorphic to either R^2, S1 X R, or T^2. But I know that the isomorphisms of covering spaces of a space X should be in one to one correspondence with the conjugacy classes of subgroups of X. Now I know that R^2 is the universal cover of the torus, and so it corresponds with the trivial class. T^2 obviously corresponds with the conjugacy class of T^2 itself. And so there is this third class, which has a correspondence with S1 X R.
 
But the product of covering spaces is a covering space for the product; since S^1 and R both cover S^1, any of the products S^1 x S^1 ~ T^2 ; S^1 x R and Rx R all cover S^1 . Is that what you meant?
 
oooooh yeah. I'd forgotten about the product of covering spaces being a covering space for the product. Well, at least it makes sense how to understand think of it in one direction. But I'm still confused about something: am I wrong in thinking that the covering spaces of the torus can be broken into three distinct groups: ones that are homeomorphic to S1 X S1 (which is the torus), ones homeomorphic to S1 X R, and ones homeomorphic to R X R? The ladder three categories should be distinct because S1 X S1 has fund. group ZXZ, S1 X R is homotopic to S1 (because R is contractible), while R X R has trivial fundamental group - so neither three of these representative are homeomorphic as none are homotopic. So we have 3 distinct "isomorphism groups" of covering spaces of the torus. Right? And I thought the correspondance between the isomorphism groups of covering spaces X' of X and the conjugacy classes of subgroups of pi_1(X) was a one-to-one correspondance?
 
Right, for each n , there is a cover associated with nZ ; the map z^n : S^1-->S^1 represents the cover associated with nZ . Notice the induced mapgives you multiplication by n . Maybe playing around with these will give you all covers over T^2.
 

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