What are the cosets of the ring R=Z_4[x]/((x^2+1)*Z_4[x])?

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The discussion revolves around the cosets of the ring R=Z_4[x]/((x^2+1)*Z_4[x]) and the relations between these cosets. Participants explore the application of the division algorithm in this context, focusing on the structure of the quotient ring and the representation of elements within it.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the cosets as being of the form a*x+b+I, where I is the ideal generated by x^2+1, and discusses the implications of the relation x^2+1=0 in the quotient.
  • Another participant suggests that the elements of the quotient ring can be thought of similarly to elements in $\mathbb{Z}/4\mathbb{Z}$, emphasizing the shared structure and division algorithm.
  • There is a mention of the multiplication of cosets, specifically how to compute (A+I)(B+I) and the need to apply the division algorithm to obtain a representative of the form ax+b.
  • An example is provided to illustrate the multiplication of cosets, showing how to simplify the product using the relation x^2=-1 mod I.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the structure of the cosets and the application of the division algorithm, but there is no explicit consensus on all aspects of the multiplication process or the implications of the relations within the ring.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the properties of the ideal and the division algorithm in this specific ring context may not be fully explored or stated, leaving room for further clarification.

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I'm trying to list the cosets of the following ring and describe the relations that hold between these cosets.
R=Z_4[x]/((x^2+1)*Z_4[x])
I'm using the division algorithm since x^2+1 is monic in the ring Z_4[x].Now for every f that belongs to Z_4[x] by the division algorithm
f=(x^2+1)q(x)+p(x)=>the cosets are of the the form...a*x+b+I where I is an ideal generated by x^2+1.
x^2+1=0 in the quotient=>a new ring where multiplication between cosets A+I and B+I is is defined by (A+I)(B+I)=(AB)+1 where the relation x^2+1=0 exists
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Re: Ring and cosest

StefanM said:
I'm trying to list the cosets of the following ring and describe the relations that hold between these cosets.
R=Z_4[x]/((x^2+1)*Z_4[x])
I'm using the division algorithm since x^2+1 is monic in the ring Z_4[x].Now for every f that belongs to Z_4[x] by the division algorithm
f=(x^2+1)q(x)+p(x)=>the cosets are of the the form...a*x+b+I where I is an ideal generated by x^2+1.
x^2+1=0 in the quotient=>a new ring where multiplication between cosets A+I and B+I is is defined by (A+I)(B+I)=(AB)+1 where the relation x^2+1=0 exists
Is is ok?

They way I would think about the elements of the quotient ring is much the same way that you would think about the elements of, say, $\mathbb{Z}/4\mathbb{Z}$. This is because they are "essentially" the same thing - you have the same division algorithm, etc.

So, every coset has a (unique!) representative of the form $ax+b$. So when you multiply $(A+I)(B+I)=AB+I$ then you do the division algorithm on $AB$ to get an element of the form $ax+b$ with $ax+b=AB\text{ mod }x^2+1$.

Does that make sense?
 
Re: Ring and cosest

So I need to apply the division algorithm on (AB)+I...ok
 
Re: Ring and cosest

StefanM said:
So I need to apply the division algorithm on (AB)+I...ok

Essentially, yes. For example, $(x+I)\cdot (x+1+I)=x^2+x+I=x-1+I=x+3+I$, as you know that $x^2=-1\text{ mod }I$ because $x^2+1\in I$
 

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