What are the different types of thresholds in particle collisions?

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The discussion centers on the various thresholds of energy required for particle collisions, particularly in the context of experiments at facilities like Fermilab and CERN. Participants explore specific thresholds, such as the pion production threshold and the potential existence of a threshold at 2 GeV, while considering the implications of these thresholds in both laboratory and cosmological settings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the complete list of thresholds for particle collisions, specifically mentioning the pion production threshold of 290 MeV and questioning the validity of a 2 GeV threshold.
  • Another participant states that the threshold energy is dependent on the masses of the incident and produced particles, as well as the type of collision (fixed target vs. colliding beams), suggesting that a random number like 2 GeV is unlikely to be a threshold energy.
  • A later reply references the hadron epoch after the Big Bang, proposing that conditions similar to those in laboratory experiments at 2 GeV may have existed during that time.
  • One participant claims that in a cosmological context, 2 GeV is indeed a threshold for proton-antiproton pair production via photon collisions, providing a specific reaction equation.
  • Another participant requests a source for the claim regarding photon-photon collisions, expressing unfamiliarity with the concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of a 2 GeV threshold, with some supporting its relevance in cosmological contexts while others challenge its significance in laboratory settings. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific thresholds and their implications.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence of threshold energies on various factors, including particle masses and collision types, which may not be fully addressed in the contributions. There are also unresolved questions regarding the sources of information on photon-photon collisions.

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I want to know about the thresholds of particles observed when colliding two matter particles together in fermilab or CERN i.e the pion production threshold is 290 MeV, what other thresholds are there?

What is the complete list of thresholds according to the energy provided? "Is there a threshold at 2 GeV"?
 
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The threshold energy depends on what the masses of the incident and produced articles are, and whether it is a fixed target or colliding beam production. There are specific formulas for specific cases.
I doubt that a random number like 2 GeV is a threshold energy.
 
Meir Achuz said:
The threshold energy depends on what the masses of the incident and produced articles are, and whether it is a fixed target or colliding beam production. There are specific formulas for specific cases.
I doubt that a random number like 2 GeV is a threshold energy.

Yes but i have read that after the big bang, hadrons collided with each other (during hadron epoch) in conditions similar to that of particles colliding at 2 GeV (in our lab experiments)...how to fit the concept there?
 
In the cosmological context, 2 GeV is a threshold for proton-antiproton pair production, for example through photon collisions

[tex]\gamma + \gamma \rightarrow p + \bar{p}.[/tex]

This threshold is easy to calculate because the center-of-mass energy is easy to compute. As Meir told you, for a laboratory production threshold, there can be more inputs that need to be known.
 
fzero said:
In the cosmological context, 2 GeV is a threshold for proton-antiproton pair production, for example through photon collisions

[tex]\gamma + \gamma \rightarrow p + \bar{p}.[/tex]

This threshold is easy to calculate because the center-of-mass energy is easy to compute. As Meir told you, for a laboratory production threshold, there can be more inputs that need to be known.

can u identify your source of information on this...ive never heard of photon-photon collision before...please provide link or source
 

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