What Are the Essential Classic Physics Textbooks?

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The discussion revolves around identifying essential classic physics textbooks that are considered must-haves for anyone studying physics. Participants suggest various texts across multiple fields, including classical mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, and more. The conversation includes recommendations for introductory and advanced levels, as well as critiques of certain textbooks.

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  • Some participants propose a list of must-have textbooks, including "The Feynman Lectures on Physics," "Classical Mechanics" by Goldstein, and "Introduction to Electrodynamics" by Griffiths.
  • Others argue that Griffiths' textbooks are essential, particularly for electromagnetic theory and quantum mechanics.
  • Some participants mention alternative recommendations, such as "Shankar" for quantum mechanics and "Landau" for classical mechanics, suggesting that these may be superior to Griffiths.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of exercises in Kleppner's book, with some participants noting errors and suggesting it may not be reliable for problem-solving.
  • There are differing opinions on the effectiveness of Feynman's lectures, with some expressing that a solid background is necessary to fully benefit from them.
  • Participants discuss the importance of mathematical methods in physics, with one participant highlighting the significance of Boas' book.
  • Some express dissatisfaction with Griffiths' E&M book, indicating a preference for other texts.
  • Questions arise about the best resources for those familiar with classical mechanics seeking more challenging problems and applications.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on which textbooks are the best or most essential, as multiple competing views and preferences are expressed throughout the discussion.

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Some participants mention specific errors in textbooks, particularly in Kleppner's exercises, but do not provide a comprehensive list of these errors. The discussion reflects a variety of opinions on the strengths and weaknesses of different texts, indicating that personal preferences and experiences significantly influence recommendations.

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This discussion may be useful for students and educators in physics looking for recommendations on classic textbooks across various topics and levels of study.

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"must haves" classic textbooks?

So, what are the must have books for a physics person?... I mean what would be the PERFECT collection of classic physics textbooks? If you can chose a set of physics books on your bookshelf, what would the ones that you absolutely need to have?

I know that Goldstein's classical mechanics is a must...

so, let's name a couple others on some other fields, such as astrophysics, fluid dynamics, relativity... you name it.

edit: so let me compile a list:

Introductory Physics:
The Feynman Lectures on Physics (Richard P. Feynman, Robert B. Leighton, and Matthew Sands)

Thermal Physics:
An Introduction to Thermal Physics (by by Daniel V. Schroeder)

Classical Mechanics:
Classical Mechanics (by Herbert Goldstein, Charles P. Poole, John L. Safko)

Fluid Mechanics
Fluid Mechanics (by L.D. Landau , E.M. Lifschitz)

Electrodynamics:
Introduction to Electrodynamics (by David J. Griffiths)

Special Relativity:
Spacetime Physics (by Edwin F. Taylor, John Archibald Wheeler)

Quantum Mechanics:
Introduction to Quantum Mechanics (by David J. Griffiths)
Modern Quantum Mechanics (by J. J. Sakurai)

Solid State Physics:
Introduction to Solid State Physics (by Charles Kittel)

so, anything about fluid dynamics, astrophysics, cosmology, general relativity, statistical physics?
 
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Classical Electrodynamics, of course.
 
I'd say that Griffiths' textbooks on electromagnetic theory and quantum mechanics are "must haves." It's Griffiths, after all.
 
halliday-resnik-walker...n h c verma if ur staying in india
 
A few more are:

Shankar
Sakurai (modern, not advanded)
Kittel (solid state, thermal physics)
Feynman lectures
Peskin & schroeder
Zee
Zwiebach
MTW, gravitation
Weinberg, the quantum theory of fields
 
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Taylor/Wheeler - Spacetime Physics (1966)
 
i have something else to advise.
do not take kleppner's book for the exercises in them, cause the excercises that seems to be most interesting have errors in them.
although the text explains matters in an interesting and rigourous way (as rigorous as a physicist can be about maths (-:).
now in this semester i take a course in QM and SR, si I am planning to use the last chapters of this book in hope that no errors will be found, and i also plan to use rindler's intro to SR.
dont know if it's a classic but it looks good enough to be an intro to SR.
 
IIRC, Kleppner uses the complex time component when dealing with four-vectors.
 
loop quantum gravity said:
i have something else to advise.
do not take kleppner's book for the exercises in them, cause the excercises that seems to be most interesting have errors in them.

What kind of errors? Can you provide examples?
Merely typographical or ill-posed?
If typographical, it might be worth it to compile a list... or add to http://d0lbln.lbl.gov/h7af98/h7af98-kktypos.pdf .

K+K's exercises are certainly more challenging than those found in your standard intro textbook. In spite of possible typographical problems, it's still worth it to do the problems. A while back I had started a personal project to do and write up detailed solutions to all of the problems in K+K... but I only got as far as all of chapter 1 until other things got me busy. Someday, I'll get back to it.

For SR, Taylor-Wheeler's Spacetime Physics (1966) is the best introduction.
 
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arunma said:
I'd say that Griffiths' textbooks on electromagnetic theory and quantum mechanics are "must haves." It's Griffiths, after all.

There are better out there than Griffiths...

Wangsness for E&M and McGervery or even Liboff for QM.
 
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Ive never been a big fan of Feynmans intro lectures as yes they are intro topics, you really need a good background in them for his lectures...
 
  • #12
Fluid Mechanics by Landau et al.
 
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My list

Introductory physics (non-honors: classical mechanics, electromagnetism):
Halliday and Resnik, Physics
Serway, Physics for Scientists and Engineers
Young and Freedman, University Physics

Introductory classical mechanics (honors):
Kleppner and Kolenkow, Introduction to Mechanics

Introductory electromagnetism (honors):
Purcell, Electricity and Magnetism

Special relativity:
French, Special Relativity

Introductory physics (honors: classical mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics):
Feynman, Lectures on Physics

Mathematics:
Apostol, Calculus (volumes 1 and 2)
Arfken and Weber, Mathematical Methods for Physicists
Abramowitz and Stegun, Handbook of Mathematical Functions

Second course in mechanics:
Marion and Thornton, Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems

Second course in electromagnetism:
Griffiths, Introduction to Electrodynamics

Optics:
Hecht, Optics
Goodman, Introduction to Fourier Optics

First course in quantum mechanics:
Griffiths, Introduction to Quantum Mechanics

First course in statistical and thermal physics:
Kittel and Kroemer, Thermal Physics
Reif, Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics

Solid state physics:
Kittel, Introduction to Solid State Physics
Ashcroft and Mermin, Solid State Physics

Graduate course in classical mechanics:
Goldstein, Classical Mechanics

Graduate course in classical electrodynamics:
Jackson, Classical Electrodynamics

Graduate course in quantum mechanics:
Sakurai, Modern Quantum Mechanics
Merzbacher, Quantum Mechanics

Graduate course in optics:
Born and Wolf, Principles of Optics

Graduate physics:
Landau and Lifsh*tz

Quantum field theory:
Peskin and Schroeder
 
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I can't believe no one has mentioned the "Boas book" (Mathematical methods in the physical sciences) for mathematics. Greatest book...ever. It is the true bible.
 
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Am I the only one who hates that damn E&M Griffiths book?
 
  • #16
You've missed some of the more important texts.

Classical Mechanics
Personally i think Goldstein is weak, it has some good problems but theory wise it is rather weak. I prefer either Landau for its brilliant and concise summary or Arnold for understanding.

Quantum Mechanics
Griffiths books are barely a introduction to the subjects, try Shankar as the bare minimum.
 
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robphy said:
What kind of errors? Can you provide examples?
Merely typographical or ill-posed?
If typographical, it might be worth it to compile a list... or add to http://d0lbln.lbl.gov/h7af98/h7af98-kktypos.pdf .

K+K's exercises are certainly more challenging than those found in your standard intro textbook. In spite of possible typographical problems, it's still worth it to do the problems. A while back I had started a personal project to do and write up detailed solutions to all of the problems in K+K... but I only got as far as all of chapter 1 until other things got me busy. Someday, I'll get back to it.

For SR, Taylor-Wheeler's Spacetime Physics (1966) is the best introduction.
you can search on my posts in the introductory physics section in the homework section.
most of my questions were from kleppner's book, and so far two or more questions from this book were replied as something is wrong in the questions type of answers.
ofcourse perahps the posters didnt solved it correctly.
 
  • #18
hmm... can't edit my original post anymore... I was thinking about adding more to the list... oh well.
 
  • #19
mathlete said:
Am I the only one who hates that damn E&M Griffiths book?


No you are not...I had to teach out of it once, swore I'd never do that again.
 
  • #20
which book is best suited for one who knows classical mechanics well enough for resnick halliday, and wishes to know more of applications and challenging problems ?
 
  • #21
f(x) said:
which book is best suited for one who knows classical mechanics well enough for resnick halliday, and wishes to know more of applications and challenging problems ?

Any engineering statics and dynamics book will be what you want for applications. It will probably be short on Lagrangian and Hamiltonian techniques, but nail every bridge, truss etc...
 
  • #22
Dr Transport said:
Any engineering statics and dynamics book will be what you want for applications. It will probably be short on Lagrangian and Hamiltonian techniques, but nail every bridge, truss etc...
I wouldn't want something that has such intense maths as that...will be better if it is restricted to calculus. I want something like Problems in General Physics by Irodov- but something that offers supplementary explanation as well
 
  • #23
Cohen Tannoudji Books in Quantum Mechanics
All the Theoretical Physics books of Landau and Lifchits ( classical mechanis, field theory, quantum mechanics, electrodynamics of continuous media, statistical physics , quantum field theory ...)
All the Theoretical Physics books of Greiner
 
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f(x) said:
I wouldn't want something that has such intense maths as that...will be better if it is restricted to calculus. I want something like Problems in General Physics by Irodov- but something that offers supplementary explanation as well

Maybe, if you want an ebook, you can try this :
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/

It has some cool problems, and also an introductory chapter on Lagrangians, plus chapters of relativity.
 
  • #25
I have Boas' Mathematical Methods book, to be honest I thought it was needlessly large, taking ages to read when I have an excellent calculus textbook that a substantial portion of the same topics in far less pages.
 
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i do not know much of physics, but what would you recommend me? I need a physics book that is kind of general, not focused just at one part, like mechanics, thermodinamics, electromagnetizm, quantum theori, but rather that contains something out of all topics. I am looking for a book which has pretty much formulas, and in which math is used a lot, but not too advanced math, just some light calculus.
 
  • #27
Heres a few for anyone interested in nuclear engineering/physics. They are geared towards engineering however they would be useful to a physicist as well Id imagine.

From just about everyone I have talked to, the following two books are considered "The Bible" for their topic.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471223638/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471073385/?tag=pfamazon01-20

While not the "must have" textbooks, I found the following to be very useful and they will stay on my self:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0781741513/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201824981/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/3527406115/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1560320516/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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I would guess that the APS offers a list of suggested undergraduate level physics books for the "core collection" of a college library. Certainly the AMS has long offered such a list for math books.
 

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