What are the expectations of our children?

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The discussion revolves around the expectations children have from their parents, educators, and society, particularly in the context of career prospects, safety, and personal development. Participants share personal anecdotes and reflections on how these expectations manifest in various age groups, from young children to young adults, and the challenges they face in achieving their goals.

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  • Some participants express concern about the job market and the difficulties their children face in finding stable employment after graduation.
  • Others highlight the importance of teaching children to be cautious about their online presence, as it may impact future job opportunities.
  • There are differing views on whether it is realistic to expect a bright future for children, with some arguing that the job market is unpredictable.
  • Some parents emphasize the need for children to pursue their own goals and develop entrepreneurial skills.
  • Participants share personal stories about their children's aspirations, ranging from wanting to be police officers to pursuing advanced degrees in fields like physics.
  • One participant reflects on the balance between encouraging children and providing a realistic view of future opportunities.
  • Another participant discusses the expectations children have for guidance and protection from adults, emphasizing the need for compassionate support.

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The discussion reveals multiple competing views regarding the expectations children have and the realities of the job market. There is no consensus on whether it is realistic to guarantee a bright future for children, and participants share a variety of personal experiences and perspectives.

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Some statements reflect personal anecdotes that may not generalize to all children or families. The discussion includes a range of assumptions about the job market and educational expectations that remain unresolved.

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Parents, educators, and individuals interested in child development, career guidance, and the impact of societal changes on youth expectations may find this discussion relevant.

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President Obama recently made a speech in Tuscon, AZ - after a brutal attack that resulted in the shooting of 19 people including a popular Congresswoman, and the killing of 5 others including a Federal Judge and an innocent 9 year old girl. In the speech, the President suggested that we should live up to the expectations of the murdered child.

http://www.comcast.net/video/obama-live-up-to-our-childrens-expectations/1740386853/fanNews/newest/

Accordingly I ask, what are the expectations of our children? What do children expect from parents, siblings, relatives, friends, educators, schools, public servants, crime prevention and safety issues, the economy, long term career prospects, retirement, national defense, and of course - Government in gereral? How do our children in 2011 view the world?
 
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My 27 year old son has a B.A. from Marlboro College. He is unable to find work in the U.S. beyond chopping firewood and yard work. Has worked a year in China teaching English at Southwest University. When asked, "how will you pay for the medical insurance that the federal government requires you to get?" answered he plans to be out of the country. He is leaving in February to teach English at a university in Russia.
 
My 26 year son makes a $1 above minimum wage working part time (no benefits) at a store in the mall. We paid for the dental work he recently needed. He sometimes borrows a friends car to go places around town.
 
My 15 year old son is taking a "College and Careers" class in public high school they have told the class to be careful what they post on the internet as it could stop them from getting a job in the future.
 
PhilKravitz said:
My 27 year old son has a B.A. from Marlboro College. He is unable to find work in the U.S. beyond chopping firewood and yard work. Has worked a year in China teaching English at Southwest University. When asked, "how will you pay for the medical insurance that the federal government requires you to get?" answered he plans to be out of the country. He is leaving in February to teach English at a university in Russia.

I know a young man that is teaching English in Russia. He too had difficulty finding work after graduation and has been there about 4 years. As a young man, he wanted to become a chemist, but found when he entered the university that he was too far behind in his studies - had too much fun in high school. He calls his father every Sunday afternoon and seems content - does a good bit of traveling.
 
PhilKravitz said:
My 15 year old son is taking a "College and Careers" class in public high school they have told the class to be careful what they post on the internet as it could stop them from getting a job in the future.

That sounds like good advice. I've advised by kids to think before they post stupid photos and comments on the sites they visit. Given the experiences of your older children, has your 15 year old been influenced?
 
It is not realistic to warrant a bright future or career to your kids. As the world is ever changing, no one can predict the needs of the job market.

As a guy of 26 years old, I would say I am working very hard to polish my skills and resume - writing, language, quantitative, social skills and so on, and when the opportunity comes, I will have a higher chance to seize it.
 
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anuse10 said:
It is not realistic to warrant a bright future or career to your kids. As the world is ever changing, no one can predict the needs of the job market.

As a guy of 26 years old, I would say I am working very hard to polish my skills and resume - writing, language, quantitative, social skills and so on, and when the opportunity comes, I will having a higher chance to seize it.

Your advice is to prepare well and look for the best opportunity?
 
Exactly what I am saying :)
 
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anuse10 said:
Exactly what I am saying :)

Have you always had the same expectations of your future?
 
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I think our kids expect to have bright futures full of prospective opportunities. As a mother I try to impress upon my children the importance of pursuing their own goals in an entrepreneurial way.

My ten year old says:"I will be a police officer. It will be hard to become. I will have to take a test."

My five year old says: "I will be obewankenobe. It will be hard to become a jedi knight. I will have to take a test."
 
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WhoWee said:
Have you always had the same expectations of your future?

Nay, there are always economic upturns and downturns. All one can do is to sharpen his skills to get prepared for the future, or at least for the time being.

For school kids I would recommend work hard for school work and be involved in social activities. For working guys I would recommend work hard to get credit from your supervisors.

WhoWee please feel free to spit out your views :)

tamaraboyyd, I admire your way to inspire your kids. How do you do so in an entrepreneurial way?
 
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anuse10 said:
WhoWee please feel free to spit out your views :)

I've always tried to be balanced when talking about the future. I've been heard saying things that indicate there is opportunity and tempered with a dose of reality. A solid education is important and you need to find something you enjoy doing. The sky is the limit, but you get there in small steps. Put thought into your decisions and planning, then stay the course.
 
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My kids understand I'll help them as much as possible (and there are limits) - but it's up to them to live their own lives and make their own choices. When called upon for help - I prioritize (aside from an emergency) based on the level of effort they are putting into helping themselves. I don't do their homework while they sleep and not having it done is absolutely not a reason to take a day off.
 
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tamaraboyyd said:
I think our kids expect to have bright futures full of prospective opportunities. As a mother I try to impress upon my children the importance of pursuing their own goals in an entrepreneurial way.

My ten year old says:"I will be a police officer. It will be hard to become. I will have to take a test."

My five year old says: "I will be obewankenobe. It will be hard to become a jedi knight. I will have to take a test."

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My 28 year old says: "I will be a phd physicist. It will be hard to become a phd physicist. I will have to take a test" :biggrin:
 
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Pengwuino said:
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My 28 year old says: "I will be a phd physicist. It will be hard to become a phd physicist. I will have to take a test" :biggrin:


Oh yes, the "test" - it's the great equalizer. My oldest kids are twins. She is quite serious - studies and works very hard to achieve excellent grades. He works hard on sports and girls and cars - and still gets good grades. They sat together for the ACT. She prepared for about a month - he stayed up late playing video games the night before.

They scored the same overall on the ACT. He tests very well and she chokes - nearly every time. If they both ask for help - I typically help her first.
 
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Children come into this world small, fragile, helpless and totally dependent on their caretakers who introduce them to a world they have never before encountered. Within each child is an unstated acknowledgment of its own vulnerability and dependance.

What do they expect from the perplexing adult world?

They expect compassionate, loving, wise guidance and protection from parents and other adults until they can reach adulthood themselves and wing it on their own. Anything to the contrary, such as the infliction of physical or mental cruelty are perceived as traitorous and the perpetrators as unworthy of love or respect.
 
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Radrook said:
Children come into this world small, fragile, helpless and totally dependent on their caretakers who introduce them to a world they have never before encountered. Within each child is an unstated acknowledgment of its own vulnerability and dependance.

What do they expect from the perplexing adult world?

They expect compassionate, loving, wise guidance and protection from parents and other adults until they can reach adulthood themselves and wing it on their own. Anything to the contrary, such as the infliction of physical or mental cruelty are perceived as traitorous and the perpetrators as unworthy of love or respect.

Agreed. Any thoughts on what children expect once they reach the point where they can "wing it"? Do they see accept any responsibility for their own preparation and training (for instance)?
 

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