What Are the Fastest Moving Objects in the Universe?

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The discussion revolves around the velocities of large objects in the universe, particularly focusing on stars and galaxies. Participants explore the nature of their movements, including peculiar velocities, and inquire about specific examples of high-speed objects, such as rogue stars and galaxies in motion relative to each other.

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  • Some participants inquire about the existence of large objects moving at high velocities across the cosmos, particularly in intergalactic space.
  • It is noted that distant galaxies are generally moving fast due to the expansion of the universe, but this raises questions about the nature of their movement through space.
  • One participant highlights that galaxies can recede faster than light due to cosmic expansion, but clarifies that this does not imply movement through space at that speed.
  • There is interest in individual massive objects, such as stars or galaxies, moving independently rather than in uniform motion with their neighbors.
  • Participants mention the Andromeda Galaxy as an example of a galaxy moving towards the Milky Way at approximately 300 km/s.
  • Discussion includes the concept of "peculiar motion" or "peculiar velocity," which describes the non-uniform motion of stars and galaxies relative to a standard frame of reference.
  • Some participants discuss high-velocity neutron stars, which can reach speeds of up to 1000 km/s, and express curiosity about their trajectories.
  • Concerns are raised about whether any high-velocity neutron stars might be headed towards the solar system, with one participant reassuring that none pose a threat due to the vastness of space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the velocities of celestial objects, with no clear consensus on the specifics of their movements or the implications of those velocities. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various definitions and frames of reference for measuring velocities, indicating that assumptions about motion can vary based on the chosen frame. The discussion also touches on the complexities of gravitational interactions between galaxies and stars.

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Readers interested in astrophysics, cosmology, and the dynamics of celestial objects may find this discussion relevant.

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I'm wondering what sorts of velocities exist for large objects in the universe.

Specifically, I'm wondering whether huge objects exist which are traveling across the cosmos at huge velocities, and what those objects and velocities might be.

For example, are there stars moving in intergalactic space which are "whizzing past" other random objects that might wander into their paths? How about within the milky Way Galaxy?

What sort of relative velocities are galaxies moving at with respect to each other? Are there any examples of galaxies traversing space at an extraordinarily high velocity compared to the norm? In general, are galaxies relatively static WRT each other, or are they all moving around in all directions at significant velocities?
 
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In general, as a result of the expansion of the universe, distant galaxies are moving very fast compared to us.
 
Uhh, this depends on whether you count the velocity due to the expansion of the universe or not. If you do, there are galaxies out there that are receding faster than light. But they aren't "moving through space" at that velocity. Otherwise I know there are large objects traveling very fast. For example, our entire solar system travels at about 251 km/s around the galactic center.
 
Thanks for the replies so far. I wasn't really thinking about the expansion of the universe in general or the relatively uniform orbit of stars around the galactic center.

But instead, I was wondering if individual objects of size (I suppose at least a solar mass or two) were traveling by themselves in directions other than along with their neighbors?

Are there any galaxies rushing towards each other? Any stars zipping along at a severe angle to the galactic plane? At what sorts of velocities?
 
EskWIRED said:
Thanks for the replies so far. I wasn't really thinking about the expansion of the universe in general or the relatively uniform orbit of stars around the galactic center.

But instead, I was wondering if individual objects of size (I suppose at least a solar mass or two) were traveling by themselves in directions other than along with their neighbors?

Are there any galaxies rushing towards each other? Any stars zipping along at a severe angle to the galactic plane? At what sorts of velocities?

Galaxy of Andromeda is rushing towards our own galaxy.
 
It's called "peculiar motion" or "peculiar velocity", and if you look up a star or a galaxy on wikipedia or a catalogue of stellar objects, it's usually noted - if measurable.
It is defined with respect to some rest frame, usually the "local standard of rest", which is the frame of reference of the solar system as it follows its orbit around the galactic centre.

Most objects, be it stars or galaxies, exhibit peculiar motion. Stars don't follow strictly regular obits, galaxies gravitationally attract each other and then collide etc.

Our neighbouring Andromeda Galaxy is currently flying at some 300 km/s toward us(relative to the frame of reference at rest with Milky Way), and is only going to accelerate as it gets closer.

Individual high speed stars can have peculiar velocities in the order of magnitude of 100s km/s, like this one:
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0410673
(here's a pop-sci article about the same thing:)
http://www.astronomy.com/en/News-Observing/News/2004/11/High-speed star flees Tychos blast.aspx

Here's some more reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_kinematics
Or search http://arxiv.org/ for "high-velocity stars" "runaway stars", "galactic collision" etc.
 
Bandersnatch said:
It's called "peculiar motion" or "peculiar velocity", and if you look up a star or a galaxy on wikipedia or a catalogue of stellar objects, it's usually noted - if measurable.
It is defined with respect to some rest frame, usually the "local standard of rest", which is the frame of reference of the solar system as it follows its orbit around the galactic centre.

Most objects, be it stars or galaxies, exhibit peculiar motion. Stars don't follow strictly regular obits, galaxies gravitationally attract each other and then collide etc.

Our neighbouring Andromeda Galaxy is currently flying at some 300 km/s toward us(relative to the frame of reference at rest with Milky Way), and is only going to accelerate as it gets closer.

Individual high speed stars can have peculiar velocities in the order of magnitude of 100s km/s, like this one:
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0410673
(here's a pop-sci article about the same thing:)
http://www.astronomy.com/en/News-Observing/News/2004/11/High-speed star flees Tychos blast.aspx

Here's some more reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_kinematics
Or search http://arxiv.org/ for "high-velocity stars" "runaway stars", "galactic collision" etc.

Good stuff! Thanks.
 
Supernova Remnants like Neutron stars and maybe black holes have the most kinet energies. Since Neutron stars are not that massive (2 solar masses is the upper limit) they can have very high velocities.

If you're looking for huge Velocities Neutron stars can have up to 1000 km/s (whatch out for "guitar Nebula") and many of them effectively surpassing the galaxy escape velocity (300 km/s). Some of the latest observable pulsars are candidates for even higher velocities.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar_kicks
 
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Raghnar said:
Supernova Remnants like Neutron stars and maybe black holes have the most kinet energies. Since Neutron stars are not that massive (2 solar masses is the upper limit) they can have very high velocities.

If you're looking for huge Velocities Neutron stars can have up to 1000 km/s (whatch out for "guitar Nebula") and many of them effectively surpassing the galaxy escape velocity (300 km/s). Some of the latest observable pulsars are candidates for even higher velocities.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar_kicks

That is exactly the sort of stuff I was wondering about! Thanks.

Are any of those high-velocity neutron stars headed our way?
 
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EskWIRED said:
Are any of those high-velocity neutron stars headed our way?
Not in such a way that they would come close to our solar system. Space is BIG.
 
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mfb said:
Space is BIG.
Space is big.
Space is dark.
It's hard to find
A place to park.
Burma Shave.
 

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