What are the key challenges facing mainstream cosmological theories?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and unresolved issues facing mainstream cosmological theories. Participants explore various criticisms and uncertainties within the field, focusing on theoretical aspects, observational limitations, and philosophical questions related to cosmology.

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  • Some participants highlight the need for constructive criticism of cosmology, referencing George Ellis's moderate critiques of the field's assumptions and methodologies.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliance on unverified concepts such as dark matter, dark energy, and inflation, with some participants noting that these elements have not been confirmed through laboratory experiments.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of assuming a flat universe (k = 0) without sufficient evidence, as pointed out by Ellis, who argues for a more rigorous approach to determining the universe's curvature.
  • Some participants express that while the mainstream cosmological model fits well with observations, it remains poorly constrained and relies on a crude parameterization of the universe, particularly regarding dark energy and inflation.
  • Questions are raised about the lack of observational puzzles compared to the abundance of theoretical challenges, suggesting that the field suffers from insufficient measurements to validate or refine existing theories.

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Participants generally agree that there are significant challenges and uncertainties within mainstream cosmology, but multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of these challenges and the best approaches to address them. The discussion does not reach a consensus on specific criticisms or solutions.

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Limitations include unresolved mathematical steps and the dependence on definitions related to dark energy and dark matter. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the adequacy of current cosmological models and the need for further observational data.

  • #31
wolram said:
ST, this may be a stupid question, but what evidence do we have that the
CMB is only observed as it is from our view, could observation from another galaxy give different results ?

If inflation is correct, then the CMB should look different from other locations, but have the same statistical properties. Sometimes, we can remotely infer the properties of the CMB by looking at gas that is coupled to it. Here's one such example:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/n...pe=HTML&format=&high=4428679b1d05070"

It's not a very powerful technique, however, and can only give us very crude measurements of the temperature. Measuring the anisotropies remotely is probably a long way off, if possible at all.
 
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A question i have with held for lack of research, but, how can it be shown that the CMB is a relic of the BB, every one seems to assume it is, but i guess, there is not a unique signature for this radiation.
 
  • #33
There have been sugestions from the Steady State 'school' in the 1970s that the CMB might be either the sum total of background galaxies - Olber's paradox red-shifted into the micro-wave region.

Or, in Fred Hoyle's mass field theory fundamental particle masses decrease as you out in space until you reach the membrane where m = 0, which we interpret as the BB. The CMB was then claimed to be the smoothed out radiation from galaxies beyond that membrane, (presumeably with negaitve masses.)

These suggestions were long shots, which did not explain the CMB isotropy and would not have survived the discovery of the anisotropies at the 10-5 level.

Garth
 
  • #34
Thankyou , Garth, i admit i am learning a lot about the fundamental reasons
for the SM, but i am cursed with the ability to see other views, i think it is
like a retail outlook, one sees an opening and tries to fill it, but this is wrong
for cosmology, one should not try to fill in the gaps until the market ressearch
has been done.
 
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