What Are the Latest Insights on Spiral Galaxy Formation Theories?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on theories regarding the formation of spiral galaxies, exploring various models and insights related to their development. Participants are interested in both historical and potentially new perspectives on this astrophysical phenomenon.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention two primary theories of spiral galaxy formation: the SSPSF shock wave model and the Density wave model, suggesting a possible combination of both.
  • One viewpoint suggests that spiral arms may trace the paths of primordial gas molecules during the collapse phase, with complications arising from shocks due to pop III star detonations affecting numerical simulations.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the implications of primordial gas tracing and relates it to their understanding of the universe's structure, including voids and fractal mass distribution.
  • Another perspective describes the formation process as akin to an enormous whirlpool of coalescing gas, where stars form from local overdense regions within a rotating mass, influenced by centripetal force.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as multiple competing views and interpretations of spiral galaxy formation theories are presented, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific assumptions about the nature of the universe and the processes involved in galaxy formation, which may not be universally accepted or fully resolved.

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So far i have found two theorise of how they form, the SSPSF
shock wave model ,and the Density wave model, or they may
form by a combination of the two.
As i am not sure how old these theories are, i wonder if there are
any new insights on the subject?
 
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By some schools of thought, spiral arms trace the path taken by primordial gas molecules during the collapse phase. Intervening effects, like shocks imparted by detonations of pop III stars complicate matters when you try to run numerical simulations, but the principle is consistent with observations.
 
Chronos said:
By some schools of thought, spiral arms trace the path taken by primordial gas molecules during the collapse phase. Intervening effects, like shocks imparted by detonations of pop III stars complicate matters when you try to run numerical simulations, but the principle is consistent with observations.

Trace the path taken by primordial ----,
what does this mean? i am trying to understand the (as it seems to me) the
none homogeneous isotropic universe, the universe that has vast voids and
seemingly fractal mass distribution, if this is not mainstream, i apologise, but
the formation of a galaxy seems to me a basic starting point.
 
More like an enormous whirlpool of coalescing gas. Stars form from knots in the flow - local overdense regions - but remain bound to the system at large. Centripetal force flattens out the edges of this huge, rotating mass.
 

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