What are the methods to store Vanadium?

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The discussion centers on the challenges of storing vanadium, with participants confirming that vanadium cannot be contained in standard containers due to its tendency to diffuse. Users noted that glass containers are ineffective, as vanadium rapidly oxidizes upon exposure. The conversation also touched on the potential toxicity of vanadium oxide dust and suggested that storing vanadium in chrome vanadium alloys, commonly used in hand tools, may be a viable solution to mitigate diffusion issues.

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Asking about storing vanadium
Hello all:

Read a book long time ago about some metals and vanadium was mentioned that it , the book read that you can not contain vanadium in normal container because it will diffuse from that container is that correct

Because I start seeing on social media Instagram for example people claiming that they are doing experiments on vanadium and it was stored in glass container

Is it bad memory or they are just trying to gather followers

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H
 
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I would be surprised if there were storage problems due to diffusion of the metal. The surface would be rapidly oxidised.

There may be a problem with toxicity, if a fine oxide dust is inhaled. That could lead to a higher mobility of the metal.

How could vanadium be stored, to prevent oxidation? Could organometallic compounds then be more mobile?
 
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hagopbul said:
you can not contain vanadium in normal container because it will diffuse from that container
We have tried to contain @Vanadium 50 in numerous ways here at PF, and have never been successful. This method below took the longest for him to "diffuse" from, and that was less than 10 minutes. We've given up trying... :wink:

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https://www.wildabouthoudini.com/p/houdinis-suspended-straitjacket-eascpes.html
 
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From my experience @Vanadium 50 is a PF Univers so I don't know of a method to contain it

@berkeman when I visit the website without logging in I don't see your post on this thread ? !

And just to clarify I really read that , even mentioned that vanadium was used in wwii !

For metallic organic compounds I don't know if the study was on metallic organic compounds or pure vanadium it was about illuminating a vanadium sample with multi frequency light source and study the reflection and refraction of photons in the rang of violet and ultraviolet frequencies , I even asked the researcher about the vanadium storage and the researcher did not answer
 
Correction the researcher posted a video saying she is researching vanadium oxide , this may clarify things alittle
 
hagopbul said:
TL;DR Summary: Asking about storing vanadium

Hello all:

Read a book long time ago about some metals and vanadium was mentioned that it , the book read that you can not contain vanadium in normal container because it will diffuse from that container is that correct

Because I start seeing on social media Instagram for example people claiming that they are doing experiments on vanadium and it was stored in glass container

Is it bad memory or they are just trying to gather followers

Best
H

Ok Depends what charges are.
If it is operation of sarcasm without due care and attention, then off the top of my head....
British prison.
Concrete bunker, armed guards, bread, water and some sort of meat (I'm thinking tripe or chitterlings )Lord of the Rings as reading material. Some pages missing, apologies.
Entire Jilly Cooper collection.

Music, I have "Helen Ready, the Las Vegas years."
Access to a TV of course, I'm not a monster, black and white portable.
in terms of channels, British, C4 Wales, VHS Video player. A few episodes of Home and away, neighbours and Brookside. Nothing sequential.

Also a rather interesting, "Arthur Negus enjoys." Series from the 70s.

Off the top of my head...
 
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pinball1970 said:
I wrote my post yesterday but waited till someone else posted first.
I like your idea though.
Hello :

I wasn't sarcastic:) I really read a book about vanadium, and other metals , it was for expanding the public knowledge I was in school at the time of the reading, the book claimed vanadium is hard to contain , I am just making sure that the information was right :)
 
I think the best way to store vanadium is in the chrome vanadium alloy used to make Cr-V hand tools.
I know, from experience, that those tools will diffuse with the vanadium into other mechanics tool boxes.
You can bias the diffusion equilibrium by locking your tool box.
 
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