What are the most energetic lightning "superbolts" ever measured?

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The discussion centers around the inquiry into the most powerful and energetic lightning bolts, specifically "superbolts," and seeks referenced data on their maximum possible energy discharge. Participants are interested in both direct measurements and indirect estimates, such as those derived from satellite observations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests properly referenced data about the energy of superbolts, emphasizing the need for measurements in joules rather than power in watts.
  • Another participant points out that many reports incorrectly refer to power without considering discharge time, highlighting a specific case where a lightning stroke exceeded 3 terawatts of power.
  • There is a consensus among participants that the information found is inadequate without discharge time, volts, or amps to calculate energy in joules.
  • A reference to the EU standard for lightning protection is made, which quotes a figure of 10 MJ/Ohm for energy delivered in worst-case flashes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the inadequacy of available information regarding the energy of superbolts and the importance of having measurements in joules. However, there is no consensus on specific data sources or the interpretation of existing data.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in the available literature, particularly regarding the lack of discharge time and the need for clear definitions of energy measurements.

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Highest known energy of lightning on Earth, directly measured or estimated by other means like e.g. satellite observation.
Hi! I would be interested in properly referenced data about the most powerful / energetic lightning bolts on Earth to get a good idea about their maximum possible order of magnitude (maybe depending on location?) Both direct measurements or indirect but well-founded estimates (e.g. satellite observations) are OK. Can you help me, please?
 
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Have you searched for papers about superbolts ?

For a single strike event the specification should be the total energy discharge in joules.
It seems many reporters wrongly refer to power in watts, but not the discharge time.
https://lanl.gov/discover/news-release-archive/2020/November/1112-superbolt.php
... “One lightning stroke even exceeded 3 terawatts of power—thousands of times stronger than ordinary lightning detected from space,” ...
 
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Baluncore said:
Have you searched for papers about superbolts ?
Yes I have, and I didn't find anything useful. That's why I came to ask.
Baluncore said:
For a single strike event the specification should be the total energy discharge in joules.
Indeed.
Baluncore said:
It seems many reporters wrongly refer to power in watts, but not the discharge time.
https://lanl.gov/discover/news-release-archive/2020/November/1112-superbolt.php
... “One lightning stroke even exceeded 3 terawatts of power—thousands of times stronger than ordinary lightning detected from space,” ...
Yep, that's the kind of info I found ---useless without the discharge time. Also in volts, in amps... but never in joules or anything that let me calculate the joules. :frown:
 
xpell said:
Yes I have, and I didn't find anything useful. That's why I came to ask.

Indeed.

Yep, that's the kind of info I found ---useless without the discharge time. Also in volts, in amps... but never in joules or anything that let me calculate the joules. :frown:
I notice that the EU standard for lightning protection, EN-62305 page 35, quotes a figure of 10 MJ/Ohm for the energy delivered in 10% worst case flashes.
 
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