What are the orthogonal trajectories of e^{x}(xcosy - ysiny) = c?

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The discussion revolves around determining the equations of the orthogonal trajectories for the family of curves defined by the equation \(e^{x}(x\cos(y) - y\sin(y)) = c\). Participants explore the mathematical process of implicit differentiation, the derivation of the orthogonal trajectories, and the conditions under which the resulting differential equations are exact.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant begins by stating they can solve for the orthogonal trajectories but anticipates a lengthy process.
  • Another participant provides a detailed derivation of the orthogonal trajectories, starting with implicit differentiation and leading to a specific form of the differential equation.
  • Participants discuss the derivation of the left-hand side of an equation related to the exactness of the differential equation, with one participant seeking clarification on how it was obtained.
  • There is an exploration of the implications of having an exact equation and how it relates to the existence of a function \(F(x,y)\) that satisfies certain conditions.
  • One participant acknowledges a lapse in memory regarding the implications of exact equations and expresses gratitude for the reminder.

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While there is a collaborative effort to derive the orthogonal trajectories, the discussion includes requests for clarification and understanding of specific steps, indicating that some aspects remain contested or unclear among participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need for an integrating factor and the conditions under which the differential equations are exact, but there are no explicit resolutions to the uncertainties raised regarding the derivation steps.

Asawira Emaan
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Asalamoalaikum, help me with this. I can solve it but it goes very lengthy.
Determine the equations of the orthogonal trajectories of the following family of curve;
e^{x}(xcosy - ysiny) = c
 
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Asawira Emaan said:
Asalamoalaikum, help me with this. I can solve it but it goes very lengthy.
Determine the equations of the orthogonal trajectories of the following family of curve;
e^{x}(xcosy - ysiny) = c


We are given the family of curves:

$$e^x\left(x\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)=c$$

I would begin by implicitly differentiating w.r.t \(x\):

$$e^x\left(x\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)+e^x\left(\cos(y)-x\sin(y)y'-y'\sin(y)-y\cos(y)y'\right)=0$$

Since \(e^x\ne0\) divide through by that, and solve for \(y'\) to obtain:

$$y'=\frac{(x+1)\cos(y)-y\sin(y)}{(x+1)\sin(y)+y\cos(y)}$$

Let \(u=x+1\implies du=dx\)

$$y'=\frac{u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)}{u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)}$$

And so, the orthogonal trajectories will satisfy:

$$y'=\frac{u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)}{y\sin(y)-u\cos(y)}$$

Let's express this in differential form:

$$\left(u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)\right)du+\left(u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)dy=0$$

This equation is not exact, but we easily derive the integrating factor:

$$\mu(u)=e^u$$

Thus, we may write:

$$e^u\left(u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)\right)du+e^u\left(u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)dy=0$$

We indeed find that this equation is exact, and so we must have:

$$F(x,y)=\int e^u\left(u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)\right)du+g(y)$$

$$F(x,y)=e^u(u-1)\sin(y)+e^uy\cos(y)+g(y)$$

Taking the partial derivative w.r.t \(y\), we obtain:

$$e^u\left(u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)=e^u(u-1)\cos(y)+e^u(\cos(y)-y\sin(y))+g'(y)$$

Or:

$$g'(y)=0\implies g(y)=C$$

Hence, the solution is given implicitly by:

$$e^u((u-1)\sin(y)+y\cos(y))=C$$

Back substitute for \(u\):

$$e^{x+1}(x\sin(y)+y\cos(y))=C$$

This is the family of orthogonal trajectories to the given family of curves. :)
 
MarkFL said:
We are given the family of curves:

$$e^x\left(x\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)=c$$

I would begin by implicitly differentiating w.r.t \(x\):

$$e^x\left(x\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)+e^x\left(\cos(y)-x\sin(y)y'-y'\sin(y)-y\cos(y)y'\right)=0$$

Since \(e^x\ne0\) divide through by that, and solve for \(y'\) to obtain:

$$y'=\frac{(x+1)\cos(y)-y\sin(y)}{(x+1)\sin(y)+y\cos(y)}$$

Let \(u=x+1\implies du=dx\)

$$y'=\frac{u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)}{u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)}$$

And so, the orthogonal trajectories will satisfy:

$$y'=\frac{u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)}{y\sin(y)-u\cos(y)}$$

Let's express this in differential form:

$$\left(u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)\right)du+\left(u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)dy=0$$

This equation is not exact, but we easily derive the integrating factor:

$$\mu(u)=e^u$$

Thus, we may write:

$$e^u\left(u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)\right)du+e^u\left(u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)dy=0$$

We indeed find that this equation is exact, and so we must have:

$$F(x,y)=\int e^u\left(u\sin(y)+y\cos(y)\right)du+g(y)$$

$$F(x,y)=e^u(u-1)\sin(y)+e^uy\cos(y)+g(y)$$

Taking the partial derivative w.r.t \(y\), we obtain:

$$e^u\left(u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)=e^u(u-1)\cos(y)+e^u(\cos(y)-y\sin(y))+g'(y)$$

Or:

$$g'(y)=0\implies g(y)=C$$

Hence, the solution is given implicitly by:

$$e^u((u-1)\sin(y)+y\cos(y))=C$$

Back substitute for \(u\):

$$e^{x+1}(x\sin(y)+y\cos(y))=C$$

This is the family of orthogonal trajectories to the given family of curves. :)
How did you get the LHS of:
$$e^u\left(u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)=e^u(u-1)\cos(y)+e^u(\cos(y)-y\sin(y))+g'(y)$$

The RHS of the above is $F'_y$, that's clear to me but I don't understand how did you get the LHS?
 
Alan said:
How did you get the LHS of:
$$e^u\left(u\cos(y)-y\sin(y)\right)=e^u(u-1)\cos(y)+e^u(\cos(y)-y\sin(y))+g'(y)$$

The RHS of the above is $F'_y$, that's clear to me but I don't understand how did you get the LHS?

Suppose we have an ODE in differential form and that it is exact:

$$M(x,y)\,dx+N(x,y)\,dy=0$$

Now, because the ODE is exact, this implies that there is a function \(F(x,y)\) such that:

$$\pd{F}{x}=M(x,y)$$

and

$$\pd{F}{y}=N(x,y)$$

And it is this implication of an exact equation that gave me the LHS of that equation. :)
 
MarkFL said:
Suppose we have an ODE in differential form and that it is exact:

$$M(x,y)\,dx+N(x,y)\,dy=0$$

Now, because the ODE is exact, this implies that there is a function \(F(x,y)\) such that:

$$\pd{F}{x}=M(x,y)$$

and

$$\pd{F}{y}=N(x,y)$$

And it is this implication of an exact equation that gave me the LHS of that equation. :)
I see, I forgot about it.
Thanks for reminding me this.
 

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