What are the overtones of a clarinet?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the overtones of a clarinet, which is modeled as a resonant tube with one closed end. The original poster identifies the fundamental frequency as 147 Hz and the length of the clarinet as 0.583 m, seeking to determine the frequencies of the first three overtones.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply equations related to wavelength and frequency to find the overtones but questions whether their approach is correct. Some participants provide hints regarding the relationship between the length of the tube and the wavelengths of the fundamental frequency and overtones.

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Participants are engaged in exploring the relationships between frequency, wavelength, and the physical characteristics of the clarinet. Some guidance has been offered regarding the wave equation and the relationship between harmonics, but there is no explicit consensus on the method to calculate the overtones.

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There is some confusion regarding the application of the wave equation and the definitions of frequency versus wavelength. The original poster's understanding of the relationship between these concepts is being questioned and clarified.

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A clarinet can be treated as a resonant tube with one closed end. The fundamental frequency is 147 Hz.

I was able to figure out the length of the clarinet: it is .583 m

BUt the question is to calculate the frequencies of the first three overtones.

Would the overtone equatinos used to find the wavelength be
(wave) = 4(length)
(wave) = 2 (length)
wave = length

Or am I completely off track?
 
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Here's a hint: For the fundamental frequency, the length of the tube equals 1/4 of a wavelength. For the first overtone (the next allowable frequency), how many wavelengths fit into the tube?
 
Doc Al said:
Here's a hint: For the fundamental frequency, the length of the tube equals 1/4 of a wavelength.

How does that work? If the fundamental frequency is 147 Hz
then (147/4) equals the length? =36.75 this is not what I found...

Do I divide by four then?
 
147 Hz is the frequency, not the wavelength! Use the wave equation ([itex]v = f \lambda[/itex]) to find the wavelength, if you want to. But you don't need to find the wavelength or the length of the tube to solve this problem.

What I want you to understand is the relationship between the wavelength of the fundamental frequency and the wavelength of the first harmonic. (If you know how the wavelengths relate, then you should be able to figure out how the frequencies relate via that wave equation.)

Draw yourself a picture of the open/closed tube and draw the fundamental wave.
 

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