What are the potential products of the reaction between acetylene and HOCl?

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The discussion centers around the potential products of the reaction between acetylene and hypochlorous acid (HOCl). Participants explore various reaction pathways, including the formation of chlorinated products and the conditions necessary for the reaction to occur. The scope includes theoretical considerations, reaction mechanisms, and the implications of different reaction conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Cl acts as an electrophile, leading to the formation of (HCOH)=CHCl, and discusses potential tautomerization to a keto form or further addition of HOCl.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of the reaction conditions, noting that acetylene is a gas while HOCl is typically in aqueous solution, and raises the possibility of forming H2OCl+ in the presence of acetic acid.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that HOCl could independently form a chloronium ion, suggesting that the reaction could proceed quickly for the alkyne, but emphasizes the role of keto-enol tautomerism in determining the final product.
  • One participant clarifies that in acidic water, free Cl2 is more significant than HOCl, describing a concerted reaction that forms a chloronium bridge.
  • Another participant posits that if HOCl is not in excess, the reaction may stop at the chloroacetaldehyde product and discusses the stability of chloroacetaldehyde in its hydrated form.
  • A warning is issued regarding the exothermic nature of reactions involving acetylene, highlighting safety considerations.

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Participants express differing views on the mechanisms and products of the reaction, with no consensus reached on the final outcomes or the conditions required for the reaction to proceed. Multiple competing models and hypotheses are presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note various assumptions regarding the reaction conditions, such as the concentration of HOCl and the presence of other solvents like acetic acid. The discussion also touches on the stability of reaction intermediates and the potential for tautomerization, which remains unresolved.

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What is the product of acetlyene and HOCl reaction?
I gathered that Cl acts as electrophile and so (HCOH)=CHCl is formed.
Now two things can happen, it could tautomerize to keto form since enol form is unstable, or another molecule of HOCl can add itself, if it adds again there are two ways of adding them, both chlorine atoms could end up on the same carbon or on adjacent carbons. How do we decide what will be the final product?

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This may be silly of me to ask, but could some conditions be made arranged that acetylene and that hypochlorous acid would have the opportunity to participate as reactants? One would imagine that acetylene is a gas and HOCl is dissolved in water. This LOOKS like the acid form of NaOCl, sodium hypochlorite, which would be expected to exist as aqueous solution.
 
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This may be silly of me to ask, but could some conditions be made arranged that acetylene and that hypochlorous acid would have the opportunity to participate as reactants? One would imagine that acetylene is a gas and HOCl is dissolved in water. This LOOKS like the acid form of NaOCl, sodium hypochlorite, which would be expected to exist as aqueous solution.
H2OCl+ is formed in the presence of acetic acid, this is the attacking species
 
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H2OCl+ is formed in the presence of acetic acid, this is the attacking species
I doubt this has to be the case. Ultimately you’re looking at the formation of a three-member ring featuring a chloronium. HOCl can likely do this on its own (in water, this is unstable to formation of chlorine gas). This proceeds quickly for the alkyne, but, as you’ve noted, after the first chlorohydrin addition, you have to contend with keto-enol tautomerism.

What happens here wil depend on the exact nature of the rates involved. Equilibrium heavily favors the aldehyde, so there’s likely a point at which you can stop the reaction and get the monochlorinated aldehyde product that is the tautomer of what you indicated in the OP. However, if you let the reaction continue running in the presence of xs HOCl, it will continue to react in the transient enol form.

To determine where the second chlorine will end up, remember that after the 3-member chloronium ring is formed, water adds as a nucleophile to the carbon with the largest partial positive charge (cf. epoxide ring opening).
 
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Just to be clear about the very first step: in acidic water, HOCl is less important than free Cl2 dissolved in water. The Cl2 approaches perpendicular to the electron-rich triple bond and is polarized to give a partial positive charge on the chlorine nearest the alkyne moiety. A (roughly) concerted reaction gives the chloronium bridge and releases a chloride into solution.
 
Since it isn't explicitely mentioned that HOCl is in excess (assuming you have worded your question exactly 'as is' in your book), I think that it is ok to stop at the chloroacetaldehyde (major) product.
(Side question for OP: The enol + HOCl reaction product will be?...)
Additionally, chloroacetaldehyde isn't normally encountered in its anhydrous form, but rather occurs as a hydrate ClCH2CH(OH)2. This is a saturated compound that won't react with HOCl. Also, HOCl is a very weak acid that won't complete that intensely with the hydrate formation.
 
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Please beware, as acetylene is prone to exothermic reactions. Study the HAZMAT info and use due care.
 

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